My Argument With An iPhone Fan
So i wouldn't go into much details but here's how it went, we were going back and forth typical argument Z10 VS IPHONE,APPLVSBBRY....
His opening argument was that blackberry is only now able to say they have a working touch screen phone,i took that....
then he went on to say blackberry is still playing catch up with ios and android....i asked in what way?
he brought up the apps point,asked him apps like? he then stated apps which are already confirmed for bb10....he still did not choose to accept defeat
he brought up specs,i stated that all specs of iphone5 to z10 is lower (maybe the exception of the camera,not sure)
he said whats the use of specs with no apps to test it (lol i actually laughed at this)
then we reached to the "innovation argument" he stated ofc that the z10 does nothing no current phone can do and they invented or innovated nothing
so i asked what did appl invent? he admitted nothing,seeing that innovation is somewhat different from inventing,we got to that...where i mentioned yes appl innovated to a point and so did bb10 (balance,timeshift camera) he ignored the balance and stated the timeshift is simply burst mode...i tried to explain to him he wouldnt understand the difference so i said ok if it is burst mode,what other phone out there uses burst mode in this way at the moment? he stated S3 if you add a "theme" to it..i was confused from the time he used the word theme lol what does theme have to do with this feature?
so we got down to OS,He mentioned bb10 needs another os to make their phone... and this is where the argument ended lol.....HE SAID BB10 IS ANDROID.... I THEN PROCEEDED TO EXIT STAGE
- 03-01-13, 01:14 PM #2
well the new HTC one (m7) also uses time shift with a bar instead of circle, the samsung galaxy note 2 does with square face reels at the bottom you can previeew and pick from and apparently a few others with jelly bean 4.1 do too although ive only actually seen for myself the HTC and note 2 so cant confirm that the s3 or others really do it
- CrackBerry Genius
03-01-13, 01:24 PM #3
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I think there will be a lawsuit eventually. I think BB filed for a patent on the time shift camera
Honestly, iOS is written to be idiotproof.
He obviously has no idea what he's talking about. I've showed my friends the Z10, and many iPhone friends of mine are considering upgrading to Z10. They love the keyboard.
For those of us who prefer text over calling, the keyboard is such a giant win factor.
- 03-01-13, 02:26 PM #5
- 03-01-13, 02:50 PM #7
My Argument With An Iphone Fan
I see no point to arguing. The Z10 is a great phone in and of itself for the right person. Not everyone... but many. The iPhone is also great, but not for everyone.
Unfortunately there is a popularity contest in play and other factors are in force having little to do with the underlying technologies competing.
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- CrackBerry Genius
03-01-13, 03:53 PM #9
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re: My Argument With An iPhone Fan
Nothing wrong with a little banter here a d there, with respect.
I personally haven't had a chance to play with a z10, so will hold my judgement till then.
I do feel it will have to really blow me away as my s3 is as solid a phone as I have ever had.
Sent from a galaxy far away!
- 03-01-13, 04:23 PM #13
What did Apple innovate? Not really sure, but they did redefine the smartphone market with the iPhone and RIM has finally caught up. Jobs said in 2007 that they were 5 years behind, I guess he was right.
I did not say because of specs the z10 is better,i only stated that the z10 did outspec the iphone but did not say that was the reason it was better,the whole reason i "Won" the argument is because i thought this person actually knew something,but for him to say that bb10 is android os to me thats autonatically winning grounds for me
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- 03-01-13, 05:01 PM #19
Just the fact that Apple folk are defensive is informative.
The last time I can remember the Apple Corps being this upset about a phone was January of 2009, when I was privileged to be involved in the webOS launch.
webOS was so far ahead of anything that Apple had at the time that the press corps was absolutely goo-gah. EVERYONE wanted a Pre, that day. And while Palm screwed up quality control and availability, I remember the Apple folks being enraged at the idea that someone would dare to try and compete with them. The arguments that multitasking and fast 3G don't matter, etc. Meanwhile, Apple launched a crack program to catch up with Pre, which shipped as iPhone 3GS.
When Apple folks are angry and on the attack, it's because something about your product or experience smacked them in the face and they're panicking over how to deal with it. If BB gets the availability and marketing question right, you'll see the anger against BB reach Palm-like levels in Apple-world shortly, with every other Apple-related article, post or YouTube video slagging off BB the way they did Palm for the first several months of 2009.
Ultimately, in a market that will sell a billion units, there's enough room for everyone. This is an unprecedented market size, and that represents opportunity for innovation from everyone. No OEM will "dominate" -- certainly not Apple, which will be "just another choice." Losing that "leadership" position isn't going to be easy for them, but they'll manage. Just as the Mac is a tiny minority platform, so shall iOS be. And that's OK. They'll still make money.
- CrackBerry Addict
03-01-13, 05:24 PM #20
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- 03-01-13, 11:52 PM #22
- CrackBerry Abuser
03-02-13, 12:02 AM #24
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I still do agree that usage of standards such as microusb and minihdmi is better overall for consumers though.
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- 03-02-13, 07:41 AM #25
[warn]This is the sort of thread that can quickly spiral out of control. I encourage good conversation and debate, albeit, DON'T get personal, no name calling and no personal attacks.
I've already cleaned up a few posts, and I'm yet to hand out infractions, etc. So, let's keep along this same path and enjoy nice friendly conversation. [/warn]
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