- 01-03-13, 11:38 AM #52
But again, why does this bother you? What does it matter how many threads there are? It's a discussion forum, so if people want to discuss things, who cares? Anyone is free to participate or not participate any threads they want. If the moderators felt this was enough of an issue, they would combine the threads. They don't.
The other problem is that this forum has the same issue every forum has. A lot of people don't use the 'new posts' button. They just come on and post a thread. So you also get similar threads through different forum sections. But you can't force people to be observant lol. The same thing happens on every forum unless they are moderated to heck.
- 01-03-13, 01:40 PM #54
- 01-03-13, 03:46 PM #57
Gee thank you for reminding us for the 100th time,lol.
Fact is Thor has cleaned house and set out a better path with BB10, that's what matters to me.
The constant reminders of the past is like somebody not letting go of a past G/F or B/F, jeesh.
I'll be so happy when Jan 30 2013 gets here, many will let go of their past demons,lol.
Onward >>>>>>>>> BB10
- 01-03-13, 03:58 PM #58
It amuses me at times to see an iphone user (outside of Crackberry.com) looking at BB10 with thoughts of purchase and then suddenly they are swamped by other iphone users with negative comments,lol. My take on that is that there are plenty more who will jump on BB10, they just may not be as vocal about it.
- 01-03-13, 04:12 PM #59
Re: Maybe I am Paranoid but I see them Trolling
True, onward....there is a Z10 waiting for me. I can't wait to see RIM get back to relevance.
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- 01-03-13, 04:33 PM #60
If Crackberry.com was strictly a trading website such as low level Stockhouse or a little higher order such as Seeking Alpha , I would say yes a preamble might be in order ,just for the sake of due diligence.
The preamble here (RIM past) at Crackberry.com is worn out like a broken record and I would suspect most are tired of it, more so with BB10 just around the corner. Nothing wrong with constructive well thought out pro/con but can we leave the ground hog day mentality until Jan 30 2013 , then by all means knock yourselves out, in diminished numbers as I suspect.
I might add, I suspect Kevin is tired of it also, as he is going to ramp up going after the misinformed tech writers that either have an agenda or no clue ie. some Forbes tech writers / media etc. Watch Kevin's future write ups.
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- 01-03-13, 05:29 PM #63
Thor HAS created a better path. He's INNOVATING. We see that, because we're on top of this news. Everyone else will be a harder sell because of RIM's past blunders and their resting on their laurels in terms of innovation and where they THOUGHT the mobile market was headed. Think of it as a sprint. BB10 could take off running and regain market share and consumer enthusiasm at a fast pace, but because of past blunders they'll be starting 500 yards behind where they could have.
ETA: But I digress...onward it definitely is.
- 01-03-13, 06:01 PM #65
Respect to both you and Q,
Its always easy for a responce to start, I agree but. Followed by the same old jargon as we've heard for near 2 years now.
I agree with you but, just to correct you slightly! Thor is the implementer of BB10, M & J were for the most part the Innovaters. (without geting into great detail)
Thats most likely another media driven bias. Surely everyone on CB knows that.
I stop now to carry on peacefully in the next thread Cheers.
- 01-03-13, 06:28 PM #66
- 01-03-13, 06:39 PM #67
- 01-03-13, 08:57 PM #69
Man, I hope you are right. One thing I always hated was how RIM couldn't do anything without getting the carrier's say so. I've even heard that with OS updates for BB10 we won't be required to wait (sometimes it never came, depending on your carrier!) for the carrier to release their "version" of the update.
- 01-03-13, 09:27 PM #70
The facts will only emerge after bb10 is released and then we will see RIM's attitude and whether they have truly changed.
There is nothing at the moment to show that they wont treat bb10 in exactly the same way they treated bbos.
That is why reminders are needed, because a lot of people seem to have forgotten exactly what mistakes RIM made.
Fyi, i really hope RIM have learnt and are once again a hungry company, and the signs are good atm. I just want to see actual evidence of this though, and as i've stated many times now, the evidence wont be shown until well after bb10 is released.
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I guess we really can't please anybody here. And I agree with some posters on negativity or whatever; they maybe were just expressing their own opinion with regards to certain products or discussion.
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- 01-04-13, 01:50 AM #74
I think there are more realists than "blind followers" here than realized, but as already pointed out, the constant and repetitive "reminders" of RIM's failures ARE getting old. My gosh, in this thread alone are enough reminders for any ADD kid, let alone mature adults. Believe me, there's no one here that has escaped daily "reminders" if they frequent these forums. I don't see any trolls here but I definitely see posters with a history of negativity toward all things RIM. Not objective and definitely not balanced. Just check a poster's history if it's in question, the pattern will be evident. And no, repetitive negative posts from a member are not any different than repetitive blind praise posts from another.
Of course RIM has made mistakes, bad management and operations decisions. What tech company hasn't. Lest we forget the bad management, bad production decisions, bad marketing , loss of customer confidence, loss of media support, etc.... of Apple, who was in much worse straights than RIM, was on the brink of bankruptcy, until SJ came back and made a deal with Microsoft to bail them out? The bigger they are the harder they fall, and yes RIM has fallen hard, but they have a very good chance for a comeback. Correspondingly, there's nothing wrong with a little positive attitude or optimism for the underdog, not "blind following" but optimism. This is a BB fan site after all. That being said, there's nothing wrong with constructive criticism and healthy debate, but between the media and some of our civic minded members, we get enough "reminders" to insure we never forget just how bad RIM has become, how they've failed us and what idiots the management are. Sorry for the rant, but I think I've been "reminded" quite enough.
- 01-04-13, 02:58 AM #75
So no.....a pattern does not emerge. You can't look back to where I started in this forum and see where I lost my faith because the forum does not allow a view that far back. And before I give RIM my faith again, and take up the rah rah sis boom bah pompoms for RIM again, it's got to show me that it has in fact learned from its disastrous and self inflicted decline. I've got to see more than videos. I've got to hold the device in my hand, see the apps I want, and read the marketshare gains. I'm not interested in "I told you so" or predicting the future, I'm interested in actual gain that will translate in regained relevance in the U.S. so that I can continue to keep my BB in my bag along with my other phones.
Once bitten, twice shy.....I no longer blindly believe in RIM. Been there, done that. Fought in their defence, had to eat plenty of crow. And whoever finds me tiresome can easily put me on Ignore as I have people here on Ignore. My ego is not so fragile that it would matter to me one iota. This is a forum where differing ideas are expressed. My ideas have swung from absolute fangirl to very skeptical, very burnt, very concerned pragmatist.
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