- CrackBerry Genius
01-03-2013, 07:49 PM #26
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Where does one start with this.... perhaps I will point format this
-not everyone that is up for renewal on their contracts renews right when it's up, conversely not everyone waits for their contract to expire.
-the entire smartphone marketshare did not re-up Christmas 2012, and thus is locked ...... I guess no more phone sales for anyone for the next 3 years if this was the case
-not everyone wants iOS or DROID
-companies and enterprise customers do not load up for Christmas
-not all parts of the world celebrate Christmas
At some point I wish folks would use common sense
- 01-03-2013, 07:58 PM #27
Another "RIM is too late, blah blah blah" thread. Christmas is a big time to buy phones, yes. But people buy phones at other times too, and certainly not just once every two years. The market is far too varied in contract end-dates, personal preferences, gifts, people able to purchase off-contract, people owning multiple phones, etc. So no, RIM will not be struggling with BB10 because they missed the holiday season. They'll just get a little less sales than they might have if they could have released the exact same product earlier. But we know that if they had actually released earlier, it would simply be an incomplete OS and would flop altogether - a great Christmas gift for RIM haters I'm sure, but not something any of us here want to see.Z30 (10.2.1.2141) | PlayBook 32GB (220.127.116.113) | Lumia 1020 (GDR3, Lumia Black) | Nexus 4 (Android 4.4.2)
01-03-2013, 08:47 PM #30
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- 01-03-2013, 09:14 PM #31
I got my 9810 last january, guess rim should have bought it out back then as i'm now locked in for another year....
Yeah what i typed was nonsense. I got my 9810 knowing bb10 would be released at some point. But i made plans to buy bb10 or simply wait.
Op it isnt rim's fault you got locked in, that is your own poor forward thinking. If i was aware of bb10 in christmas 2011, i'm pretty sure you would have been aware of bb10 just before christmas 2012. So why get a new contract? Unless bb10 didnt float your boat. In which case, what is the purpose of this thread?
I'm genuinely struggling to see how its rim's fault you chose enter a new contract in december?Primary Device: Moto X
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- 01-03-2013, 09:16 PM #32Nothing is so common as is the goal to be remarkable
- CrackBerry Master
01-03-2013, 09:37 PM #36*******
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UPGRADE existing users to BB 10. Don't want to price devices too low? Start a 'trade-up' program. Let existing BB users exchange their old (even non-working) devices for new BB10. Eg: Old BlackBerry + $250 = Z10 This way, you won't have to officially lower your MSRP.
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- CrackBerry Master
01-03-2013, 09:50 PM #37
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I think your wireless keyboards playing up.I got to laugh at these people wanting in now and blaiming RIM.RIM gave you the alert ''next year'',''jan 30th'' this was your impatience not RIMS fault.RIM could of released some half assed phone would you have been happy then?? I dont think so.You got to man or woman up and take the blame here.Your sounding like you just hopped on the trend wave of getting fancy new tech for the sake cause everyone else was hipster style.And now you relized BB is serious stuff and now you want in on BB10.This problem is on you ,you had choices those choices didnt work out for you dont start blaiming others.
How you try blame RIM for you getting a new phone?? No one forced you to go into the store if you was a true BB person you would of waited now you talking about trades on a new phone what you smoking?? You would'nt of had this problem if you waited or are willing to pay for the phone outright or break a contract.RIMs bad timing get out with that talk they would of been finito if they released the phone half assed when you wanted it. And when was holidays and xmas the right time to release phones which get sold all year round?? There's never a bad time.
Trade off on a new phone lol take the repercussions and work out how you gonna get yourself that BB10 quit ********.
- 01-03-2013, 11:06 PM #38
Dang it! Would you experienced members please stop with the kneejerk "troll" label, whenever a newcomer posts something you find negative?!? It's becoming a bigger problem, than the true trolls themselves. Clearly the OP does not as yet have a firm grasp of the smartphone industry. How many of us did when we started? That's something the CrackBerry community can nurture, but not when we get confrontational.
Ratchet, all is not lost. You made a mistake, but once BB10 is released, if you find it suits you, sell the phone you have, and buy the one you want. You have a month to get up to speed, on where RIM has been, what they've done to get back in the game, and why it's been delayed till February.
For the record, I'm not due an upgrade again till sometime in 2014. Damn them for being a year early!WAPers do it With A Passion
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- CrackBerry Abuser
01-04-2013, 12:03 AM #39Sent from my Atari 2600, in the back of my van, down by the river...
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01-04-2013, 12:19 AM #40
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01-04-2013, 12:23 AM #41
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The release date unfortunately may not work well with your contract, but I think it generally won't affect too many people.
Gartner mentioned that 149 million smartphones were sold in Q4 2011. This decreased to 145 million in Q1 2012, which is a decrease of about 3%.
The timing of the launch itself won't affect their sales too much.
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- CrackBerry Addict
01-04-2013, 01:16 AM #43
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Whether you like it or not, we live in an age of consumerism where people will buy a new phone every few months (not saying all but I know a bunch) so yes BB could have missed out on a lot of Holiday sales, but to say the majority of the phone market will stay locked in for the next 2 years is ridiculous. If that was the case, no iPhone 4s would have sold, since everyone would have still been on contract from their 4
- CrackBerry Newbie
01-04-2013, 01:34 AM #44
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Sadly this is only the case in the USA. In the rest of the world you are locked to a contract for 6 months at the longest by law. In South Africa operators are now forced to do a month to month contract as well. BB10 will be MASSIVE ! Understand that its only in the USA where Apple dominates. In SA you hardly see the iPhone 5. The main reason - the iPhone is a little data hungry. I had an iPhone 3GS... Nice and all but why should i pay close on $150 - 200 every month for data when I get it for free with a Blackberry. Here in SA we don't pay for Blackberry data... Its free...
So there are a lot of things to consider. Thats why the Blackberry has been the biggest selling device in SA for the last few years
- CrackBerry User
01-04-2013, 01:52 AM #45
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It may be to late for me (and others) to get BB10. RIM's bad timing.
I agree with you on the Iphone. Data is too expensive in SA. i have not seen anyone with an Iphone 5 to date. I only know 2 people with an Iphone 4. I do however have to pay R59 per month for my Blacberry service, but I know its free on some contracts.
Can't wait for Blackberry 10. I will stand in line all day if I have to, to get myself one of the first Z10's.
Like someone else said on another Thread "it's never too late if it's only the beginning.
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- 01-04-2013, 06:04 AM #49Primary Device: Moto X
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- CrackBerry Genius of Geniuses
01-04-2013, 06:20 AM #50
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