Kantar: BB is lumped into "others"
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The rest of the mobile world knew it was going to be WP. Microsoft had a much better chance of taking over the third spot. Now with Nokia as their own, the picture become even more clear.08-28-14 04:43 PMLike 4 -
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"1997: Microsoft rescues one-time and future nemesis Apple with a $150 million investment that breathes new life into a struggling Silicon Alley icon.
In a remarkable feat of negotiating legerdemain, Apple co-founder Steve Jobs got needed cash ? in return for non-voting shares ? and an assurance that Microsoft would support Office for the Mac for five years. Apple agreed to drop a long-running lawsuit in which they alleged Microsoft copied the look and feel of the Mac OS for Windows and to make Internet Explorer the default browser on its computers ? but not the only choice.
Microsoft got to look like a noble competitor, for a change, for what amounted to a rounding error on their annual revenues. Timing mattered: The company was in the midst of an image-tarnishing antitrust fight over its heavy-handed promotion of IE during the height of the browser wars with Netscape.
The Apple faithful had already been conditioned to expect the unexpected when Jobs was in the house. But this surprise announcement, at Macworld in Boston, was pure Jobs theater. And it came with an oddly juxtaposed (satellite!) video feed of then-Microsoft CEO Bill Gates piped into the auditorium, dwarfing Jobs on stage.
The imagery may have been unintentional but the metaphor was entirely accurate: Apple had a tiny share of the desktop computer market, had not yet revolutionized the music industry with the iPod and couldn?t possibly dare to dream it would disrupt the smartphone market with the iPhone ? because there was no such thing as a smartphone.
And while the fanboys didn?t exactly know what to make of the new friendship between the corporate equivalents of a mongoose and a cobra, their instinct was, of course, to be against it. As reported at the time by The Seattle Times, ?The unexpected revelation ? prompted gasps of disbelief and loud boos from the audience of thousands of Mac users and software developers.?
Jobs, the Times reported, ?attempted to soothe the audience, saying: ?We have to let go of a few notions here. We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft needs to lose.??
Neither company (or executive) lost, but the world has changed in unpredictable ways and both have new competitors to worry about ? in particular, a little company that was founded a scant year later. In little more than a decade Google has become the leader in search and an emerging power in cloud computing, both vital to Microsoft, as well as a player in the smartphone platform, which horns in on Apple.
But in this simpler time the deal gave Jobs the running room to make Apple a 21st century powerhouse, which, after 18 months of losses, was hardly a forgone conclusion. On the strength of the deal Jobs ? still a mere adviser to the Apple board ? got himself hired as ?interim CEO.? Fired in 1985, Jobs would return at Top Dog. He would receive no pay, and he could quit at any time.
?The message was clear,? Frank Rose wrote in a new introduction to his 1989 history of Apple, West of Eden. ?Apple needed him more than he needed Apple.?
And Jobs set out to prove it, with a rapid dismantling of virtually everything predecessor John Sculley had done."
Don't have selective memory!!
Posted via CB10Troy Tiscareno likes this.08-28-14 04:49 PMLike 1 - Apple. One paycheck away from bankruptcy as I remember it. Thanks to MS for the check.
"1997: Microsoft rescues one-time and future nemesis Apple with a $150 million investment that breathes new life into a struggling Silicon Alley icon.
In a remarkable feat of negotiating legerdemain, Apple co-founder Steve Jobs got needed cash ? in return for non-voting shares ? and an assurance that Microsoft would support Office for the Mac for five years. Apple agreed to drop a long-running lawsuit in which they alleged Microsoft copied the look and feel of the Mac OS for Windows and to make Internet Explorer the default browser on its computers ? but not the only choice.
Microsoft got to look like a noble competitor, for a change, for what amounted to a rounding error on their annual revenues. Timing mattered: The company was in the midst of an image-tarnishing antitrust fight over its heavy-handed promotion of IE during the height of the browser wars with Netscape.
The Apple faithful had already been conditioned to expect the unexpected when Jobs was in the house. But this surprise announcement, at Macworld in Boston, was pure Jobs theater. And it came with an oddly juxtaposed (satellite!) video feed of then-Microsoft CEO Bill Gates piped into the auditorium, dwarfing Jobs on stage.
The imagery may have been unintentional but the metaphor was entirely accurate: Apple had a tiny share of the desktop computer market, had not yet revolutionized the music industry with the iPod and couldn?t possibly dare to dream it would disrupt the smartphone market with the iPhone ? because there was no such thing as a smartphone.
And while the fanboys didn?t exactly know what to make of the new friendship between the corporate equivalents of a mongoose and a cobra, their instinct was, of course, to be against it. As reported at the time by The Seattle Times, ?The unexpected revelation ? prompted gasps of disbelief and loud boos from the audience of thousands of Mac users and software developers.?
Jobs, the Times reported, ?attempted to soothe the audience, saying: ?We have to let go of a few notions here. We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft needs to lose.??
Neither company (or executive) lost, but the world has changed in unpredictable ways and both have new competitors to worry about ? in particular, a little company that was founded a scant year later. In little more than a decade Google has become the leader in search and an emerging power in cloud computing, both vital to Microsoft, as well as a player in the smartphone platform, which horns in on Apple.
But in this simpler time the deal gave Jobs the running room to make Apple a 21st century powerhouse, which, after 18 months of losses, was hardly a forgone conclusion. On the strength of the deal Jobs ? still a mere adviser to the Apple board ? got himself hired as ?interim CEO.? Fired in 1985, Jobs would return at Top Dog. He would receive no pay, and he could quit at any time.
?The message was clear,? Frank Rose wrote in a new introduction to his 1989 history of Apple, West of Eden. ?Apple needed him more than he needed Apple.?
And Jobs set out to prove it, with a rapid dismantling of virtually everything predecessor John Sculley had done."
Don't have selective memory!!
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Posted via CB10Heinz Katchup likes this.08-28-14 05:31 PMLike 1 - You haters have nothing new to post. Funny how the same posters pile on the negative threads like an angry mob.
This is old news.
Let me refresh your memories:
This July period, Kantar decided bundle BlackBerry with Other, The Same period the market share GREW in the USA(source: Kantar).
Pretty good considering USA did not have any new phones since Z30 (October 2013)
Posted via CB10Heinz Katchup and ibpluto like this.08-28-14 05:41 PMLike 2 - Read early2bed's post again: "name a single product in history..." He asks for a "product" and not a "brand" or "company".
Citing Apple as a "product" that has bounced back is a strawman. Apple is a "company" and not a "product" and Apple's computers are not a valid example because Mac computers never returned to prominence. Apple is where it is today by innovating a completely new product portfolio (iPods, iPhones, iPads, etc.) and less so because of Mac computers. Where Apple had lost ground it never quite regained it.
Assuming this logic is correct, BB10 smartphones should not be expected to ever regain lost marketshare either. This does not exclude Blackberry the company from being the Apple of the future; but, it does mean that smartphones are a lost cause.JeepBB and Poirots Progeny like this.08-28-14 05:59 PMLike 2 - I don't know how many times it has been said. Apple is not a valid example because Mac computers never bounced back to prominence. Hence, Blackberry phones should not expect to bounce back as well.
Apple is where it is today by innovating a completely new product portfolio. Where Apple had lost ground it never quite regained it.
What's even sadder is Wall Street is promoting it as innovative!
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acovey likes this.08-28-14 06:13 PMLike 1 - What is this? Dig up old news day to try and portray BlackBerry in a negative light. This thread is weak. Someone close it please and continue to contribute to those already in progress.
US market share up 230% from January 2014 to Jun 2014. also BlackBerry Market share rising in US??theRock1975 and acovey like this.08-28-14 06:21 PMLike 2 -
- What is this? Dig up old news day to try and portray BlackBerry in a negative light. This thread is weak. Someone close it please and continue to contribute to those already in progress.
US market share up 230% from January 2014 to Jun 2014. also BlackBerry Market share rising in US??
Blackberry is gone? No thanks. Next, please.
Posted via CB10Heinz Katchup likes this.08-28-14 06:48 PMLike 1 - I just checked Kantor and BlackBerry is still listed there by name don't know where this chart came from.
http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/glob...-market-share/
Posted via CB1008-28-14 06:57 PMLike 0 - Blackberry is not gone. I've been reading about BlackBerry's demise for years. Ain't dead yet! LOL!
Posted via CrackBerry App on my Samsung Note 3MarsupilamiX likes this.08-28-14 06:59 PMLike 1 - I just checked Kantor and BlackBerry is still listed there by name don't know where this chart came from.
Smartphone OS market share �€“ Kantar Worldpanel ComTech
Posted via CB10AnimalPak200 and tinochiko like this.08-28-14 07:01 PMLike 2 - 08-28-14 07:04 PMLike 1
- What is this? Dig up old news day to try and portray BlackBerry in a negative light. This thread is weak. Someone close it please and continue to contribute to those already in progress.US market share up 230% from January 2014 to Jun 2014. also BlackBerry Market share rising in US??
The data linked about was from the exact same last month report when BB went up to 2%. They are now 1.6% as I stated earlier meaning they dropped .4%08-28-14 07:15 PMLike 3 - Apple. One paycheck away from bankruptcy as I remember it. Thanks to MS for the check.
"1997: Microsoft rescues one-time and future nemesis Apple with a $150 million investment that breathes new life into a struggling Silicon Alley icon.
In a remarkable feat of negotiating legerdemain, Apple co-founder Steve Jobs got needed cash ? in return for non-voting shares ? and an assurance that Microsoft would support Office for the Mac for five years. Apple agreed to drop a long-running lawsuit in which they alleged Microsoft copied the look and feel of the Mac OS for Windows and to make Internet Explorer the default browser on its computers ? but not the only choice.
Microsoft got to look like a noble competitor, for a change, for what amounted to a rounding error on their annual revenues. Timing mattered: The company was in the midst of an image-tarnishing antitrust fight over its heavy-handed promotion of IE during the height of the browser wars with Netscape.
The Apple faithful had already been conditioned to expect the unexpected when Jobs was in the house. But this surprise announcement, at Macworld in Boston, was pure Jobs theater. And it came with an oddly juxtaposed (satellite!) video feed of then-Microsoft CEO Bill Gates piped into the auditorium, dwarfing Jobs on stage.
The imagery may have been unintentional but the metaphor was entirely accurate: Apple had a tiny share of the desktop computer market, had not yet revolutionized the music industry with the iPod and couldn?t possibly dare to dream it would disrupt the smartphone market with the iPhone ? because there was no such thing as a smartphone.
And while the fanboys didn?t exactly know what to make of the new friendship between the corporate equivalents of a mongoose and a cobra, their instinct was, of course, to be against it. As reported at the time by The Seattle Times, ?The unexpected revelation ? prompted gasps of disbelief and loud boos from the audience of thousands of Mac users and software developers.?
Jobs, the Times reported, ?attempted to soothe the audience, saying: ?We have to let go of a few notions here. We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft needs to lose.??
Neither company (or executive) lost, but the world has changed in unpredictable ways and both have new competitors to worry about ? in particular, a little company that was founded a scant year later. In little more than a decade Google has become the leader in search and an emerging power in cloud computing, both vital to Microsoft, as well as a player in the smartphone platform, which horns in on Apple.
But in this simpler time the deal gave Jobs the running room to make Apple a 21st century powerhouse, which, after 18 months of losses, was hardly a forgone conclusion. On the strength of the deal Jobs ? still a mere adviser to the Apple board ? got himself hired as ?interim CEO.? Fired in 1985, Jobs would return at Top Dog. He would receive no pay, and he could quit at any time.
?The message was clear,? Frank Rose wrote in a new introduction to his 1989 history of Apple, West of Eden. ?Apple needed him more than he needed Apple.?
And Jobs set out to prove it, with a rapid dismantling of virtually everything predecessor John Sculley had done."
Don't have selective memory!!
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Apple then shifted from Motorola based PC's to the Intel platform to support Microsoft and PC based software and the rest is history.
I worked with a person back at that time who mortgaged his property to buy 20,000 shares of Apple at around 15 bucks a share at that time. Needless to say he now lives in the sunshine and worries about nothing.08-28-14 07:20 PMLike 0 -
Jan 0.6%
Jun 2.0%
Jul 1.6%
I think they can surpass 2.0% in August with the $349 Z30 and huge discounts on other phones.
Posted via CB1008-28-14 07:31 PMLike 0 - honestly im not sure how many new units they are shipping to the states. It cant be much. I think their focus has been the z3 numbers and selling those. Remember VZW is the only carrier with a Z30 and im not sure how much stock they carried the last few months. Same with z10. BB is really hurting by not having a GSM phone out in US right now08-28-14 07:39 PMLike 0
- Apple. One paycheck away from bankruptcy as I remember it. Thanks to MS for the check.
"1997: Microsoft rescues one-time and future nemesis Apple with a $150 million investment that breathes new life into a struggling Silicon Alley icon.
In a remarkable feat of negotiating legerdemain, Apple co-founder Steve Jobs got needed cash ? in return for non-voting shares ? and an assurance that Microsoft would support Office for the Mac for five years. Apple agreed to drop a long-running lawsuit in which they alleged Microsoft copied the look and feel of the Mac OS for Windows and to make Internet Explorer the default browser on its computers ? but not the only choice.
Microsoft got to look like a noble competitor, for a change, for what amounted to a rounding error on their annual revenues. Timing mattered: The company was in the midst of an image-tarnishing antitrust fight over its heavy-handed promotion of IE during the height of the browser wars with Netscape.
The Apple faithful had already been conditioned to expect the unexpected when Jobs was in the house. But this surprise announcement, at Macworld in Boston, was pure Jobs theater. And it came with an oddly juxtaposed (satellite!) video feed of then-Microsoft CEO Bill Gates piped into the auditorium, dwarfing Jobs on stage.
The imagery may have been unintentional but the metaphor was entirely accurate: Apple had a tiny share of the desktop computer market, had not yet revolutionized the music industry with the iPod and couldn?t possibly dare to dream it would disrupt the smartphone market with the iPhone ? because there was no such thing as a smartphone.
And while the fanboys didn?t exactly know what to make of the new friendship between the corporate equivalents of a mongoose and a cobra, their instinct was, of course, to be against it. As reported at the time by The Seattle Times, ?The unexpected revelation ? prompted gasps of disbelief and loud boos from the audience of thousands of Mac users and software developers.?
Jobs, the Times reported, ?attempted to soothe the audience, saying: ?We have to let go of a few notions here. We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft needs to lose.??
Neither company (or executive) lost, but the world has changed in unpredictable ways and both have new competitors to worry about ? in particular, a little company that was founded a scant year later. In little more than a decade Google has become the leader in search and an emerging power in cloud computing, both vital to Microsoft, as well as a player in the smartphone platform, which horns in on Apple.
But in this simpler time the deal gave Jobs the running room to make Apple a 21st century powerhouse, which, after 18 months of losses, was hardly a forgone conclusion. On the strength of the deal Jobs ? still a mere adviser to the Apple board ? got himself hired as ?interim CEO.? Fired in 1985, Jobs would return at Top Dog. He would receive no pay, and he could quit at any time.
?The message was clear,? Frank Rose wrote in a new introduction to his 1989 history of Apple, West of Eden. ?Apple needed him more than he needed Apple.?
And Jobs set out to prove it, with a rapid dismantling of virtually everything predecessor John Sculley had done."
Don't have selective memory!!
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?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1008-28-14 07:42 PMLike 0 - I don't care what any one says. I really like MS as a company. They make quality products, both hardware and software. Sure it's not 100% great, but what company has that kind of track record? Bill Gates doesn't at all seem like a "bad" guy at all, so something like this is not at all a surprise. Of course, leave it to Apple to pay them back by releasing commercials trying to make Windows look bad...
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Posted via CB1008-28-14 07:48 PMLike 0 - You missed the third part - they through an absolute ton of cash to get those native apps and they are still having trouble with it. The Nokia low end device was indeed good, whereas I think BlackBerry flubbed doing the Q5 as a low-end strategy, but the victory in native apps isn't really the victory IMO ... it's how much Microsoft was willing to pay people, pay for development, pay for promotion, pay, pay,pay to get apps.08-28-14 07:49 PMLike 0
- honestly im not sure how many new units they are shipping to the states. It cant be much. I think their focus has been the z3 numbers and selling those. Remember VZW is the only carrier with a Z30 and im not sure how much stock they carried the last few months. Same with z10. BB is really hurting by not having a GSM phone out in US right now
We have to buy from Blackberry online and I know allot of folks who have to touch it and play with it before they buy it and that's hard to do on a computer screen.08-28-14 07:49 PMLike 0 - To all those who replied with such negativity:
Stop torturing yourselves and find a product that will make you happy!
The rest of us will survive just fine without you. Really!
theRock1975 likes this.08-28-14 09:10 PMLike 1
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