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    Quote Originally Posted by TheScionicMan View Post
    Wait, I'm confused... Are you for or against personal attacks? It's unclear from your post... Seems like both...
    Sigh, you are correct...he just got my goat, so I stooped to his level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigruss8 View Post
    Sigh, you are correct...he just got my goat, so I stooped to his level.
    AlienSlacker, give Bigruss8 his goat back. Then shake hands and make up.
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    That is an interesting point...but Android is a very unsecure mobil OS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigruss8 View Post
    Nope not insulted, crackberry is unlike any other mobile forum because of the number of personal attacks by insecure posters like you which is why I feel like they need to crack down. And I wouldn't be surprised one bit if you haven't stolen a few things in your life as well cause it takes one to know one.
    Hmmmm insecure thats random. Sooo how does me asking you a simple question which you have yet to answer make me insecure? How does me stating a simple logical fact with supporting reasons translate into me being insecure. As for me having stolen a few things in my life. You bet, its a simple fact everybody steals and everybody lies. Also since you seem to be taking things personal you might want to look in the mirror if you want to see an example of an insecure individual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajst222 View Post
    That is an interesting point...but Android is a very unsecure mobil OS.
    This gets said a lot. For the sake of argument, do you mind explaining why Android is an insecure OS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trelawrence View Post
    This gets said a lot. For the sake of argument, do you mind explaining why Android is an insecure OS?
    Mommy issues, probably .
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantlesspenguin View Post
    AlienSlacker, give Bigruss8 his goat back. Then shake hands and make up.
    By all means. Will agree to disagree and leave it at that. Consider the matter closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantlesspenguin View Post
    AlienSlacker, give Bigruss8 his goat back. Then shake hands and make up.
    Uh oh...I see you have an Android...I am going to have to place you under arrest for priacy...
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    I am also not worried about bb because its users are more passionate. I did sign up with Android forum snd it is borring
    here is way better

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitek View Post
    I am also not worried about bb because its users are more passionate. I did sign up with Android forum snd it is borring
    here is way better

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    LOL... you haven't visited XDA or AF apparently.

    But yes, BB users are passionate. RIM has really loyal people, and the ability of those people to create mindshare can keep the bran afloat.
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    I rest my case. Who ever still says piracy is not issue on Android is just blind. Piracy will be downfall of Android and This is again why I feel developers will give BlackBerry try despite lower hardware volumes. RIM is all about security and this means good business for developers down the road.

    This morning Madfinger Games took to Facebook to explain why it lowered Dead Trigger from 99 cents to free. The reasoning? Rampant piracy. "Unbelievably high" piracy, actually. "The piracy rate is soooo giant," the developer continued.

    One thing, though: We have absolutely no idea what that means.

    There always will be piracy. It's unfortunate, but the fact remains that so long as applications can be stolen, they will be stolen. We wish that wasn't the case. How many people stole the 99-cent Dead Trigger? Raise your hands if you dare. Was it 10 instances? One hundred? One thousand? Dead Trigger is currently in the 100,000 to 500,000 download range on its Google Play listing. We've e-mailed Madfinger Games in hopes of getting some more details on this. If 1,000 instances of piracy were noted, that's just 1 percent of the minimum total downloads. We've got an e-mail in to Madfinger seeking some details.

    Here's Madfinger's complete statement on moving Dead Trigger to free:

    Regarding price drop. HERE is our statement. The main reason: piracy rate on Android devices, that was unbelievably high. At first we intend to make this game available for as many people as possible - that's why it was for as little as buck. - It was much less than 8$ for SHADOWGUN but on the other hand we didn't dare to provide it for free, since we hadn't got XP with free-to-play format so far. - However, even for one buck, the piracy rate is soooo giant, that we finally decided to provide DEAD TRIGGER for free. Anyway - DEAD TRIGGER is not FREEMIUM, it always was and still remains FREE-TO-PLAY, that means, all players are able to play it without IAP! We stand up for this statement, because all members of our team are playing (and enjoying) DEAD TRIGGER without IAP.

    This is important just as it's important in the television industry, where piracy also is a real issue (though more self-inflicted, we'd argue). The vast majority of Android users out there, we presume, don't download pirated apps.

    Anyway. Kudos to Madfinger for making a great game even greater by making it free -- not that 99 cents should have kept anyone away. But let's hope the next time the piracy card is played, we see some numbers to back it up.
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    but they didnt provide any numbers just like your quote says! 100k-500k legit downloads is great. Yes im sure some people pirate the game but they just use "sooo giant" or "unbelievably high" which tells us nothing. Before the playbook pirate site was shut down was there some 8000+ downloads of plants and zombies or something with around 800K total playbooks out in the world. Piracy is still a problem on ALL platforms. It will always be a problem on ALL platforms i think too, even bb10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trelawrence View Post
    LOL at the theory that somehow, there is a greater percentage of dishonest people that use Android.

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    Actually it would be an interesting study based on the demographics of each user base.

    My guess, stress on the guess part, is the theory would be substantiated.

    Maybe somebody at Waterloo U can get the students to do an analysis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avt123 View Post
    On all the Android sites I have participated on, I have never seen piracy in action.

    I know more people who jailbreak to get installous to pirate.

    I have seen more pirating done on CrackBerry (PlayBook forums) than I have on any Android or iOS forum over the last 4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigruss8 View Post
    You do realize that there are many people on this forum that have both BBs and Android phones. Are you calling them dishonest simply because they own an Android phone? The mods need to start cracking down on the personal attacks.
    Something tells me they need a person's name or link to a person's thread to determine if it is a personal attack.

    I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davecbb8330 View Post
    There are apps that work on Google tv that market won't allow you to install due to the Dev not updating the app manifest.
    I download from my phone or touchpad and send the apk to dropbox and side load to my gtv.

    Another reason to side load is Google's 15 minute refund policy (not good).
    Some apps are way too involved to evaluate in 15 minutes. I'll grab the app, try it out and then buy it.

    Tons of reasons to side load, that's just a couple.
    When you download apps from Google aren't you agreeing to their policies? Whether good or bad.
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    this is news from android central. if they give game for free because it does not sell this tells me something. especially such A+++ title. i hope this game and shadowrun will come to playbook soon. i am glad to pay $5 for each title !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigruss8 View Post
    Sigh, you are correct...he just got my goat, so I stooped to his level.
    LoL. Now that's an expression I haven't heard in a while. Thanks.

    A commonly repeated story which purports to explain the phrase's origin is that goats were placed with racehorses to keep them calm. When ne'er-do-wells who wanted the horse to race badly removed it, i.e. they 'got someone's goat', the horse became unsettled and ran badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trelawrence View Post
    This gets said a lot. For the sake of argument, do you mind explaining why Android is an insecure OS?
    Daddy left home when they were just tiny droids maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bitek View Post
    this is news from android central. if they give game for free because it does not sell this tells me something. especially such A+++ title. i hope this game and shadowrun will come to playbook soon. i am glad to pay $5 for each title !

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    Your logic is interesting. Hopefully, developers see it your way.
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    Because Android and IOS have such a large user base their apps are pirated more. Makes sense. You may not see it on specific Android or IOS sites but you sure as heck see them on other "general" forum sites. I see links for thousands of paid Android apps for free on these sites.

    To me, as a previous posted said, it isn't worth the hassle for $0.99, $4.99 or $19.99. I am the same on my PC and MacBook Pro. If it is worth having it is worth paying for.

    Goodness knows what lies lurking (or sleeping) inside some of those pirated programs from torrent or other sites. I often wonder why, say the Russians seem to be so big on hacking programs.

    But if you ask people why the climb the highest mountains and they say "because I can" the same will apply to people who steal $0.99 apps . . . . . . "because I can".
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    Quote Originally Posted by bungaboy View Post
    When you download apps from Google aren't you agreeing to their policies? Whether good or bad.
    Not if I didn't obtain the apps from market.
    After I test an app, if I like it, I then go to market and buy it.
    Some apps are way too complicated to test in 15 minutes. Some take almost that long to configure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davecbb8330 View Post
    Not if I didn't obtain the apps from market.
    After I test an app, if I like it, I then go to market and buy it.
    Some apps are way too complicated to test in 15 minutes. Some take almost that long to configure.
    So by not obtaining it through the official channels, because you don't like their policies, you just borrow it for a while until you decide if you will buy it?
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    Bill Gates:

    "Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, but people don't pay for the software. Someday they will, though. As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade."

    China is the most rampant IP theft place in the world, but still everybody wants in....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bungaboy View Post
    Because Android and IOS have such a large user base their apps are pirated more. Makes sense. You may not see it on specific Android or IOS sites but you sure as heck see them on other "general" forum sites. I see links for thousands of paid Android apps for free on these sites.

    To me, as a previous posted said, it isn't worth the hassle for $0.99, $4.99 or $19.99. I am the same on my PC and MacBook Pro. If it is worth having it is worth paying for.

    Goodness knows what lies lurking (or sleeping) inside some of those pirated programs from torrent or other sites. I often wonder why, say the Russians seem to be so big on hacking programs.

    But if you ask people why the climb the highest mountains and they say "because I can" the same will apply to people who steal $0.99 apps . . . . . . "because I can".
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