HP knows those ugly form factor phones ruined everything!
Lets be real. They had a hot OS on an ugly phone with an awful design. The palm pre was ridiculous on so many levels, but everything HOT was underneath the hood. Anyways, HP knew!
There is a market for full QWERTY keyboard phones. Yes, the majority of 'Smart' phones are going the way of full Touchscreens. I am a former Palm Pre 2 owner that has gone to BlackBerry since they have everything I want in a phone. I could have went to WP7 but security is a big deal to me and BlackBerry is the only one to really provide it as far as I know.
Just remember I could slice cheese with a Palm Pre and don't think I can do that with the Torch 9810. I might go get me a Torch 9810 but, I would have to switch carriers.