[Brutal Efficiency]

I agree with this very much. It makes people who already have a BB10 device say to themselves that they can now go buy another tablet of a different OS and still enjoy features off their phone, and im sure that will help to keep people, but it makes it harder to justify a BB10 tablet now. I think BB is really going to have to come out and give BB10 some insane innovative/unique features to give any kind of tablet they release a chance. Its there though. A lot of QNX buzzwords floated around these forums before BB10 released and it sounded amazing...just hope BB plans to implement them

I am sure that they'd be able to make an enhanced version for the PlayBook 2.

I'm not fluent with Blend, but I am sure it doesn't support bluetooth typing and cursor movement like Bridge does.

I'm also sure that BlackBerry to PlayBook is more security conscious than BlackBerry to iPad/Windows/Android, on both a consumer level and an enterprise level.

The PlayBook had some great ideas to make an OS specific to a tablet, rather than just a blown up iPod/Media-Player OS. Some of the ideas they were going to implement with the supposed BlackBerry 10 update would have been great too.

While I can get by with DocsToGo, I know a lot of other people who would never drop Office 365. I think it's very important for BlackBerry to have Office as a preinstalled app on their future tablet, as well as DocsToGo.

For me, I'd like an updated Messages app (particularly Email), a very in-depth native Facebook (as I use this a lot for business as well), full BBM through Blend/Bridge, perhaps another app to specifically to manage BBM Channels. I'd also like to be able to play back video on my BlackBerry onto my tablet. I use video playback a lot at my work to show people things quickly, would be great to use the Passport's great camera with the PlayBook's screen size.

I'd also love Chat Heads, but for BBM and SMS conversations. Facebook conversations would also be a bonus.

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[silversmith75]

Ipad2 is still receiving OS updates, PlayBook is not. O_o

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Why would PlayBook receive os updates??? Tehe


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[rav813]

Have they ever abandoned anything else like they did the PlayBook? I really dont recall anything else but I will agree that after the PlayBook, it would take a lot of convincing for me to buy another BB tablet.

The Torch 9800 was DOA. It launched in 2010 and was not eligible for the 2011 BBOS 7.1 upgrade that came with the Bold 9900.

[rav813]

I don't think we should be looking at it as "is BlackBerry going to sway Apple users" ... it won't. The Apple ecosystem is so closed off, it's actually very difficult to completely leave it behind... case in point: iMessage. I had users who switched from an iPhone 4 or 4S to the Z10 /Z30 and now are thinking/trying to switch back to the iPhone 6 because they can't reliably receive text messages. Their spouses, friends, family, colleagues, etc who used to iMessage them cannot consistently message them now (without using a 3rd party app).

I think with Blend, BlackBerry has a chance to poach Android users. Offering the Amazon App Store will allows an Android user to still access the apps s/he knows and wants, Blend will work on their Android tablet, but they will get a smoother OS experience and better communications device.

just my 3 cents (adjusted for inflation)

[Mr.G_under]

i think Blend is definitely great for those in a situation as you describe, but I still struggle to see what it does for those that dont want BB, which unfortunately is a lot of people

You have to sell the feature. Once you sell the feature you sell the device. Stop speaking the obvious. You do not promote a feature by speaking of it the impossible. Sell BB for its capabilities - #workwide #productivity #communication #security

[Playbook007]

I don't think we should be looking at it as "is BlackBerry going to sway Apple users" ... it won't. The Apple ecosystem is so closed off, it's actually very difficult to completely leave it behind... case in point: iMessage. I had users who switched from an iPhone 4 or 4S to the Z10 /Z30 and now are thinking/trying to switch back to the iPhone 6 because they can't reliably receive text messages. Their spouses, friends, family, colleagues, etc who used to iMessage them cannot consistently message them now (without using a 3rd party app).

I think with Blend, BlackBerry has a chance to poach Android users. Offering the Amazon App Store will allows an Android user to still access the apps s/he knows and wants, Blend will work on their Android tablet, but they will get a smoother OS experience and better communications device.

just my 3 cents (adjusted for inflation)

I had a friend who just switched from iphone to z10. Same thing. He had to unregister his number with Apple. Then a few contacts he had to send them a text and all is ok. It just pissed him off more at Apple and made him more determined. He is happy to have broken free!

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[Granrey]

Blend is a great thing. However, So it's the hub and the security that BlackBerry has.

I wonder if the market will ignore blend same as they ignore the hub and the security.

So far, it seems it will be ignored. All of bad reviews and even some of the good ones I have seen. Don't talk about Blend.

It's like blend, the hub, security is not important for the market.

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[Emaderton3]

Blend is a great thing. However, So it's the hub and the security that BlackBerry has.

I wonder if the market will ignore blend same as they ignore the hub and the security.

So far, it seems it will be ignored. All of bad reviews and even some of the good ones I have seen. Don't talk about Blend.

It's like blend, the hub, security is not important for the market.

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Easy to ignore something that the general public does not know exists.

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[Jimberry Storm]

i think Blend is definitely great for those in a situation as you describe, but I still struggle to see what it does for those that dont want BB, which unfortunately is a lot of people

It is browser based I think, so maybe if it becomes popular they will take it cross platform as they did with BBM. Just a guess though

[Rello]

I am sure that they'd be able to make an enhanced version for the PlayBook 2.

I'm not fluent with Blend, but I am sure it doesn't support bluetooth typing and cursor movement like Bridge does.

I'm also sure that BlackBerry to PlayBook is more security conscious than BlackBerry to iPad/Windows/Android, on both a consumer level and an enterprise level.

The PlayBook had some great ideas to make an OS specific to a tablet, rather than just a blown up iPod/Media-Player OS. Some of the ideas they were going to implement with the supposed BlackBerry 10 update would have been great too.

While I can get by with DocsToGo, I know a lot of other people who would never drop Office 365. I think it's very important for BlackBerry to have Office as a preinstalled app on their future tablet, as well as DocsToGo.

For me, I'd like an updated Messages app (particularly Email), a very in-depth native Facebook (as I use this a lot for business as well), full BBM through Blend/Bridge, perhaps another app to specifically to manage BBM Channels. I'd also like to be able to play back video on my BlackBerry onto my tablet. I use video playback a lot at my work to show people things quickly, would be great to use the Passport's great camera with the PlayBook's screen size.

I'd also love Chat Heads, but for BBM and SMS conversations. Facebook conversations would also be a bonus.

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Oh I have no doubt that they could make a better tablet...but in my opinion, that wouldn't be hard to do considering the last tablet they made. With BlackBerry Blend now out, what reason would most consumers have to pick up a new BlackBerry tablet? Unless they eventually charge to have it on a non BlackBerry device but I don't know how far that will get them. IMO, I think they'd need to be real innovative with their next tablet or. Just don't try it at all. It's a reason why even Motorola and HTC haven't released a tablet of their own in a long time

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[Rello]

The Torch 9800 was DOA. It launched in 2010 and was not eligible for the 2011 BBOS 7.1 upgrade that came with the Bold 9900.

Thanks for reminding me. Yeah, RIM was pretty bad with updates back then. Especially when none of the OS6 devices got OS7 lol

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[Rello]

You have to sell the feature. Once you sell the feature you sell the device. Stop speaking the obvious. You do not promote a feature by speaking of it the impossible. Sell BB for its capabilities - #workwide #productivity #communication #security

I think u are correct but at the same time, after buying the PlayBook, I can't buy a device off of what they say it will do in the future. I just can't. That's why I say I'd BlackBerry is going to get back into tablets, then do it right. Make one that every BB10 device owner isn't going to be able to ignore and that is going to cause people from other platforms to notice. Show us why QNX was supposedly their biggest acquisition ever. Show us what it can do that no other platform can. That's what BlackBerry needs

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[Rello]

It is browser based I think, so maybe if it becomes popular they will take it cross platform as they did with BBM. Just a guess though

Mayb but that's why I say I don't know where BlackBerry is going with Blend as of right now. I wonder if the plan to make some money off of it or now. Hopefully they will make it a little more clearer down the road

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[crazigee]

I think with products like Blend, BBM Protected, and BES 12, BlackBerry is on the right track. I think their decision on the hardware side to sideline touch devices is a mistake.

If BlackBerry can continue on its path of innovation on the software side and refocus on the heard side they will be in a far better position.

BlackBerry can't afford to become complacent.

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[rav813]

You have to remember that BlackBerry's main focus is Enterprise right now. So as Rello said, Blend, BBMP, EIM, BES, UDS, these all help make BlackBerry attractive to the big Enterprise that are in regulated markets and can't use airwatch or mobileiron without spending extra time and money.

[crazigee]

You have to remember that BlackBerry's main focus is Enterprise right now. So as Rello said, Blend, BBMP, EIM, BES, UDS, these all help make BlackBerry attractive to the big Enterprise that are in regulated markets and can't use airwatch or mobileiron without spending extra time and money.

That's a good point. At the same time it's important not to forget that many companies are going BYOD, and therefore having a broader appeal due to ecosystem is also important.

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[imcurved]

I have been using Blend and I really like it.

Using Passport and Z10

[MarsupilamiX]

Thanks for reminding me. Yeah, RIM was pretty bad with updates back then. Especially when none of the OS6 devices got OS7 lol

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6.1, if I may be so snobbish to correct you.
Everyone knew back then that 7.0 is in reality a 6.1.

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[Bbnivende]

A tablet based on the Passport design concept would be very interesting.

[MarsupilamiX]

That's a good point. At the same time it's important not to forget that many companies are going BYOD, and therefore having a broader appeal due to ecosystem is also important.

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The biggest problem I see is that most people are moving/have moved away from a 2 device paradigm.

Nowadays, most people don't want a work and private phone but a phone that does both.

There is also the Asian trend of going dual-sim, which slowly starts to emerge in "western" countries as well.
This is a setup where you have 2 sim cards in your phone, while one is your private number and the other one your business phone number.

There is also the variation of having a dual sim phone, while 1 card only handles your calls and one card only handles the data.
I have heard from quite a few people that it helps to keep the carrier costs down if you do it like that.

Therefore, I think that it might be a pretty intelligent idea if BlackBerry makes a dual sim phone, with Balance enabled.
Like this, the work partition uses the work sim-card and vice versa for the private card.

Having said all of that:
Ecosystems and app stores still are incredibly important factors, when someone buys a phone nowadays.

I am still surprised how many business critical apps run on iOS and Android, which will never make it to BB10.

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[MarsupilamiX]

A tablet based on the Passport design concept would be very interesting.

I don't know...
A square tablet definitely isn't the answer to anything the market demands right now.

It also seems that Tablets shouldn't have keyboards built-in, as it makes them uncomfortable larger.

Imagine holding the iPad Air and then typing on it with a keyboard on the bottom.
I really don't see that working.

Now hybrid devices on the other hand....

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[Bbnivende]

I don't know...
A square tablet definitely isn't the answer to anything the market demands right now.

It also seems that Tablets shouldn't have keyboards built-in, as it makes them uncomfortable larger.

Imagine holding the iPad Air and then typing on it with a keyboard on the bottom.
I really don't see that working.

Now hybrid devices on the other hand....

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The passport is not really square as you know. The length / width ratio is pretty close to an iPad mini. You would be giving up some screen for the keyboard. I was thinking of a device with a 6 inch screen that would be the same width as a Nexus 7 or a 6.7 inch screen with about the same width as an iPad mini.

But I found this funny blog post:

"Blackberry is like that guy that's not really your friend but hangs out in the group anyway. Not a bad guy just a little lost. You keep him around for entertainment. You're just waiting for him to screw up and see what other stupid **** he tries to come up with. and in a way, kind of keeps you on track of what not to do with your life."

[Playbook007]

The biggest problem I see is that most people are moving/have moved away from a 2 device paradigm.

Nowadays, most people don't want a work and private phone but a phone that does both.

There is also the Asian trend of going dual-sim, which slowly starts to emerge in "western" countries as well.
This is a setup where you have 2 sim cards in your phone, while one is your private number and the other one your business phone number.

There is also the variation of having a dual sim phone, while 1 card only handles your calls and one card only handles the data.
I have heard from quite a few people that it helps to keep the carrier costs down if you do it like that.

Therefore, I think that it might be a pretty intelligent idea if BlackBerry makes a dual sim phone, with Balance enabled.
Like this, the work partition uses the work sim-card and vice versa for the private card.

Having said all of that:
Ecosystems and app stores still are incredibly important factors, when someone buys a phone nowadays.

I am still surprised how many business critical apps run on iOS and Android, which will never make it to BB10.

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The dual sim concept is definitely in the works given BlackBerry 's recent acquisition. As for the app situation, I am not struggling at all with that regard. I have found the android app if BBW did not have a solution. Now going forward with 10.3, you will see the number of compatible android apps approved by BlackBerry populate the Amazon Store. But most notable, you will see BBW over the course of the next year get serious about putting productive and important apps in BBW. They will focus the work apps there, and I agree with this move. Music, games, movies can be obtained anywhere. They are not important to BlackBerry's business model, yet they are just as and easily obtainable as a consumer. I am missing nothing!

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[Bbnivende]

The dual sim concept is definitely in the works given BlackBerry 's recent acquisition. As for the app situation, I am not struggling at all with that regard. I have found the android app if BBW did not have a solution. Now going forward with 10.3, you will see the number of compatible android apps approved by BlackBerry populate the Amazon Store. But most notable, you will see BBW over the course of the next year get serious about putting productive and important apps in BBW. They will focus the work apps there, and I agree with this move. Music, games, movies can be obtained anywhere. They are not important to BlackBerry's business model, yet they are just as and easily obtainable as a consumer. I am missing nothing!

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I see very little reason to be optimistic about BBW bringing in a bunch of new apps or that needed apps will appear soon in the Amazon store. There is a difference between needed apps and most popular apps. If your university or city puts out an app will they have it available on the amazon store ? Your needed home automation app or specialist audio app is that available ?
I can use a BlackBerry because I have other devices to fill in the gap. The Passport and Classic and Z3 LTE will all have to be very popular devices in order to bring new life to BBW.

[Playbook007]

I see very little reason to be optimistic about BBW bringing in a bunch of new apps or that needed apps will appear soon in the Amazon store. There is a difference between needed apps and most popular apps. If your university or city puts out an app will they have it available on the amazon store ? Your needed home automation app or specialist audio app is that available ?
I can use a BlackBerry because I have other devices to fill in the gap. The Passport and Classic and Z3 LTE will all have to be very popular devices in order to bring new life to BBW.

Yes they are.....straight up question. Do you have a BlackBerry 10 device? Programs for specific use I am missing none. Currently if they were not in amazon, they were on 1 mobile. Also some are using snap to go directly to the Google Playstore. Eg. NUUO viewer for security cameras at work, no problem. Nest heating systems, no problem, NVS7000 home cameras, no problem. I am not sure why you think we don't have these types of apps. I am running z30 with 10.2. The app gap is over.......we just don't have Google services but either do Apple users. This app argument is getting very old and very irrelevant!

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