[Affinity4BlkBrry]

...recently tech news has been reporting that Japanese tech giant Sony has been on the down-side as of late. Sony corp. reports selling off its pc division, which included Viao, and are bleeding cash. They also state remaining profitless until at least 2015, despite sales of the Playstation game console remaining strong, however, apparently not strong enough to bring the company back to its feet anytime soon. Perhaps BlackBerry should approach Sony to synergize some joint projects, such as Sony ditching the Android OS and replacing it with the BB10 system on their new phones. Sony has already confirmed that it's flat screen TV sales have been in decline due to the Samsung dominance and the company also reports that they are betting on their smartphone sales to assist with a bounce-back plan. Maybe whatever muscle and influence that Sony has left would be of some use in conjunction with BlackBerry, the combo of Sony's marketing power pushing their phones using the stable & secure BB10 OS provided by BlackBerry could create a............."Dynamic Duo!"

[pantlesspenguin]

Lately I'm REALLY liking the idea of BlackBerry and Sony teaming up. Sony is making some hot phones these days, but unfortunately they're just a small blip in the radar next to the giants.

[gimjay]

I totally agree with you op. Imagine Blackberry 10 with a Sony Cyber shot lens and other powerful sony features. Gosh...

[Affinity4BlkBrry]

".....start small, think BIG!" Maybe one day Sony Playstation game consoles could even be QNX based.....sometimes the only cure for an infection, is death...........of the competition!

[drkpitt]

+1 on Sony hardware running BlackBerry 10. That would be ideal. Right after that the HTC One. HTC is struggling even though they have top notch hardware and they spend a lot of time trying to differentiate their version of Android. They should also try BlackBerry 10. Couldn't be that hard to do and just sell them direct.

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[Troy Tiscareno]

+1 on Sony hardware running BlackBerry 10. That would be ideal. Right after that the HTC One. HTC is struggling even though they have top notch hardware and they spend a lot of time trying to differentiate their version of Android. They should also try BlackBerry 10. Couldn't be that hard to do and just sell them direct.

As has been covered many, many times, any existing Android manufacturer would have to be willing to give up their Android business in order to make BB phones, because BB10 contains non-Google-Certified Android, and it's a violation of the Open Handset Alliance to make phones with non-certified Android. Essentially, Sony would have to give up their own phone and tablet business to make phones for BB, and despite Sony's struggles (in the US particularly), they're doing much better with their Android products than BB is doing with BB10. Thus, the likelihood of this happening is about zero. And that would be true of any company who is making Android products as well, for the same reason.

[Affinity4BlkBrry]

Sony, HTC and any other company can do as they wish. They can switch OS anytime they want. Samsung is practically married to Google/Android, yet they have designed and built their own OS also, it's called Tizen. Currently they are slowly introducing it in certain countries outside of the U.S. on their own handsets. Nobody can force any company to choose and use the Android system forever, perhaps in troll world maybe, but in the real world, NO!

[Dougie011]

As has been covered many, many times, any existing Android manufacturer would have to be willing to give up their Android business in order to make BB phones, because BB10 contains non-Google-Certified Android, and it's a violation of the Open Handset Alliance to make phones with non-certified Android. Essentially, Sony would have to give up their own phone and tablet business to make phones for BB, and despite Sony's struggles (in the US particularly), they're doing much better with their Android products than BB is doing with BB10. Thus, the likelihood of this happening is about zero. And that would be true of any company who is making Android products as well, for the same reason.

I thought Sony was losing money on their handsets anyway? If this is the case, it doesn't seem like to much of a risk to go in with Blackberry.


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[Affinity4BlkBrry]

BB10 OS is already amazing on its own or up against any other OS. As it continues to mature, grow and improve, it will slowly spread around the globe as people begin to see and appreciate it's potential. Like it or not, BlackBerry has a bright future ahead, and companies like Sony, HTC or even LG would do well to invest with a safe, fast, efficient, secure, & productive BB10 OS!

[antoscimento]

Am totally against blackberry OS on other than Blackberry handsets.

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[ccbs]

BB10 OS is already amazing on its own or up against any other OS. As it continues to mature, grow and improve, it will slowly spread around the globe as people begin to see and appreciate it's potential. Like it or not, BlackBerry has a bright future ahead, and companies like Sony, HTC or even LG would do well to invest with a safe, fast, efficient, secure, & productive BB10 OS!

That view is certainly not shared by people outside of this forum. It will be viable if you and many others in this forum can purchase millions of phone per year to guarantee BBRY a bright future. If BBRY do what Microsoft did, Sony will definitely take 1 billion payment per year to do BB10 phone. Unfortunately, BBRY is in a worse situation than Sony themselves and Sony will be heavily punished by the street if Sony even considered this route.

[Affinity4BlkBrry]

Companies working together is called "synergy", Sony would not be punished by anyone if they chose to work with BlackBerry. Working together in general creates positive energy, with the common goal of reaching some level of success. Sometimes what cannot be achieved alone, can be achieved together. Just a thought! So for non believers and naysayers, remember your words cannot change the outcome of the future. My prediction has always been that BlackBerry will rise again, like it or not, believe it or not, makes no difference. So, you all just sit tight and watch what future will bring for BB10........because I already know!

[spikesolie]

Lately I'm REALLY liking the idea of BlackBerry and Sony teaming up. Sony is making some hot phones these days, but unfortunately they're just a small blip in the radar next to the giants.

This is my problem with people saying BlackBerry should go android. The Z line products from Sony looks hot but still barely is known

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[Troy Tiscareno]

This is my problem with people saying BlackBerry should go android. The Z line products from Sony looks hot but still barely is known

It's far too late for BB to go Android. That ship sailed long ago.

As far as the Sony smartphones being relatively unknown, that's true in the US, where they are only stocked by a single carrier, but Sony's phones are selling fairly well in Europe and Asia. Sony's problem was much like BB's: they stagnated and took their eye off the ball, and tried to appeal to every market segment instead of focusing on things they did very well, and as a result, they damaged their once-lofty brand name (in more areas than just smartphones). Their relationship with Ericsson also hurt them; making them too slow to react. And, like BB, this eventually affected their carrier relationships, especially in the US.

But their phones are pretty solid now, especially the Z1, which finally addressed the weakness of the cameras of the Z and prior phones. The big problem now is that, again like BB, they only have a limited budget for advertising.

The upside is that Sony is a very diverse company with lots of sources of revenue, and even though a couple of divisions have lost money and took them into the red, there are still some strong ones. And the new leadership seems to be making smart moves (exiting the ultra-low margin PC business was overdue), so I'm sure they'll be back in the black before very long.

[Troy Tiscareno]

I thought Sony was losing money on their handsets anyway? If this is the case, it doesn't seem like to much of a risk to go in with Blackberry.

Do you realize that BB has lost more money with BB10 in a single year ($5.8B) than all Android manufacturers combined since Android came to market? If BB can't be successful with BB10, why would anyone else be?

You have to be deep in denial to not realize this. Or really bad at math.

[THBW]

Do you realize that BB has lost more money with BB10 in a single year ($5.8B) than all Android manufacturers combined since Android came to market? If BB can't be successful with BB10, why would anyone else be?

You have to be deep in denial to not realize this. Or really bad at math.

Yet you continue to talk around the issue with Android. Nobody is making consistent profit on Android except Samsung. Your living in denial if you think HTC or Sony will continue this relationship. They have three options. 1) Tough it out and hope for the best. 2) Get out of mobile phones. 3) Move to a new platform and develop a niche. A strategic partnership with BlackBerry is possible. The question to ask is how long is HTC /Sony willing to tolerate their consistent losses and will BB10 reach a sufficient level of maturation so that these companies make the jump.

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[birdman_38]

I've checked out almost every major mobile phone out there and can say with complete confidence BlackBerry 10 would make the most sense on a Sony handheld.

However, the reason why Sony sticks with Android is because Android gives them the best chance at becoming profitable.

[birdman_38]

As has been covered many, many times, any existing Android manufacturer would have to be willing to give up their Android business in order to make BB phones, because BB10 contains non-Google-Certified Android, and it's a violation of the Open Handset Alliance to make phones with non-certified Android.

This should be covered in a blog entry on the CB home page.

[Bla1ze]

I've checked out almost every major mobile phone out there and can say with complete confidence BlackBerry 10 would make the most sense on a Sony handheld.

However, the reason why Sony sticks with Android is because Android gives them the best chance at becoming profitable.

Kind of funny since Sony and Nokia were once the largest contributors to the Android codebase.

[birdman_38]

Kind of funny since Sony and Nokia were once the largest contributors to the Android codebase.

Nokia was? I did not know that. No wonder there was so much pressure on them to go Android before they went all in with Windows Phone.

[Bla1ze]

This should be covered in a blog entry on the CB home page.

As much as Troy would like you to believe it's as black and white as that it's simply not. Foxconn is also part of the OHA. Who produced the Z3 again? lol. Oh, right.... Foxconn. Technically, Sony could spin up another division and do wtf they wanted. They won't..... but they could. Guess everyone forgot about the LG/BlackBerry rumors as well, huh? I can't be the only one who sees the resemblance between the Windermere and the LG Vu.

[birdman_38]

Well there you go Bla1ze...there's an idea for a piece.
"What would it take for BlackBerry to licence BB10?"

[Troy Tiscareno]

As much as Troy would like you to believe it's as black and white as that it's simply not. Foxconn is also part of the OHA. Who produced the Z3 again? lol. Oh, right.... Foxconn.

The difference is that Foxconn doesn't make Foxconn-branded Android phones. They're only a contract manufacturer, not a "brand". Sony is a brand, and sells Android phones under their brand, as is Lenovo, Samsung, HTC, LG, etc.

And let's be honest: if these companies can't make a profit with Android, why would they be able to make a profit with ANY other OS? Nothing prevents them from, say, licensing WinPhone, if they think Android is holding them back, but not many have done that, and the few who have really haven't pushed those phones very hard. (Remember: WinPhone is not Android, so nothing in the OHA prevents members from making WinPhone handsets. They could make BB10 handsets with the Android runtime removed also; just not with the Android runtime intact.)

[birdman_38]

The Z line products from Sony looks hot but still barely is known

Only manufacturers who have a billion dollar mobile marketing budget will see the same sales results as Samsung and Apple.

[app_Developer]

Only manufacturers who have a billion dollar mobile marketing budget will see the same sales results as Samsung and Apple.

Which is why I think Sony moving to BB10 would be taking their bad situation and only making it much worse.

Sony's challenges have nothing to do with their OS.


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