Do you think anyone will make a decent android phone with a pkb if BlackBerry doesnt release the mer
- cury... cause at this point thats all I really want. Yes the BlackBerry software on android seems a bit better than the stock crap google offers... but I bet their are enough 3rd party tools that you could survive without their software...
Of course id rather have a bb10 pbk phone with perfect android app compatability... but come on guys, none of that is happening. It seems like we wont even get another midtier pkb... im typing this long post on a priv that currently cant use LTE in nyc because it will crash the cell modem...
But im ok, cause I got my pbk...
Ill take any decent android one in the future... but who would even make it? BlackBerry's failings have tainted the form so much... no one would touch it at this point...
Ughanon(3732391) likes this.11-04-16 03:55 PMLike 1 - pkb are a thing of the past. face it. No one who wants to make money on a new phone is going to release a pkb phone. I certainly hope, for all the BB fans out there who are unwilling to face the future, that they produce one. But honestly, do YOU think they will??IndianTiwari likes this.11-04-16 04:16 PMLike 1
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- Nope, here in the US the PKB is dead and the touchscreen devices are now standard.IndianTiwari likes this.11-04-16 04:49 PMLike 1
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If BlackBerry doesn't do it then I would be very surprised if someone didn't step up to try it. The issue would be that they would probably need to license it from BlackBerry because from what I can tell, BlackBerry somehow owns patents on any and every 'decent' physical keyboard for a mobile device. The added cost of the license combined with the niche market that they are catering to makes it a risky venture.ominaxe likes this.11-04-16 04:57 PMLike 1 - Well, you guys could be very wrong. Samsung is releasing a flip phone with flagship specs. Okay, it's one of those numeric keypads and will only be released in china but it's a step towards a physical keyboard. Who knows, India or china might see a true pkb flip phone from samsung if this samsung phone does well.
Then again, I heard the retail price was over $2000 US, so it's rather pricey...
Sent from my BlackBerry Passport SE11-04-16 05:04 PMLike 0 - The market for vinyl:
- Retirees who didn't get the memo
- Obnoxious hipsters
- Audiophiles (see obnoxious hipsters)
Physical keyboards have at most the first entry.11-04-16 05:07 PMLike 6 - I only came to BlackBerry a year ago after having an all touch phone for one year and just couldn't stop making errors in typing...
The technology of the PP's and Priv's touchsensitive keyboard is a major invention which I hope doesn't get lost...
I still hope BlackBerry can make enough gain out of their dtek's and will come up with a pkb dtek or so next year, by themselfs...
Posted via CB10Mirko935 likes this.11-05-16 03:10 AMLike 1 -
If BlackBerry doesn't do it then I would be very surprised if someone didn't step up to try it. The issue would be that they would probably need to license it from BlackBerry because from what I can tell, BlackBerry somehow owns patents on any and every 'decent' physical keyboard for a mobile device. The added cost of the license combined with the niche market that they are catering to makes it a risky venture.11-05-16 04:11 AMLike 0 -
- I wonder how much all of the "physical keyboards are a relic from the past" nay-sayers are looking forward to replacing their desktop and notebook keyboards with a slab of glass.
Will there be a physical keyboard phone again? Probably not, because typing accurately on a phone is being done software-side (swiping, autocorrect, word suggestions) and isn't a major concern for most users to begin with. So full screen devices are just the way to go now.
But I like to think that there are still some R&D departments working on ways to add tactile feedback to virtual keyboards, so we might eventually see a hybrid.
You know, like some of the device renders that we have seen here, where the physical keys are part of the screen.
BlackBerry 10, CB10 signed ✓11-05-16 06:30 AMLike 0 -
I just prefer physical formats. I like to be able to have a physical 'thing' instead of paying for invisible 1's and 0's... the same reason why I still have movies on a shelf, carry cash in my wallet, prefer hardcopy tickets and boarding passes as opposed to digital copies, and prefer my data on my personal hard drives as opposed to some mysterious cloud service. I'm not suggesting that all of these things are prerequisites for someone who prefers a physical keyboard, but there are definitely still other people like me (even if we are a minority) and these formats will be around indefinitely because we know what we prefer and we will continue to support them.
So, again, I'm not suggesting that one format will defeat the other... just trying to show that the fact is there is a space for multiple formats to exist and this is not something that will change.11-05-16 07:02 AMLike 5 -
- Not every company is aiming to own the market. If there's a niche to be filled someone will come along and try to fill it. A buck's a buck.
Posted via CB10Andrew Sheil likes this.11-05-16 07:15 AMLike 1 - Agree with you . PKB is dead. There are only handful of PKB users including me . BlackBerry VKB at one time reached its peak during Z30 days but instead of launching its successor BlackBerry went on to launch the Passport and we all know what happened.11-05-16 07:53 AMLike 0
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- ...and if by 'what happened' you mean they moved to focusing on Android instead of BB10 development, I would assert that this outcome had NOTHING to do with VKB vs PKB and everything to do with 3rd party app support and/or marketing.
They released pretty much every form factor possible for BB10. The exception being the Priv with its hybrid form or perhaps an all-touch phablet like if there would have been a Passport sized all-touch device. Though, I don't think anyone would argue that either of those would have made a difference other than further setting BlackBerry in the hole on their investment into BB10.TgeekB likes this.11-05-16 08:09 AMLike 1 - I wonder how much all of the "physical keyboards are a relic from the past" nay-sayers are looking forward to replacing their desktop and notebook keyboards with a slab of glass.
Will there be a physical keyboard phone again? Probably not, because typing accurately on a phone is being done software-side (swiping, autocorrect, word suggestions) and isn't a major concern for most users to begin with. So full screen devices are just the way to go now.
But I like to think that there are still some R&D departments working on ways to add tactile feedback to virtual keyboards, so we might eventually see a hybrid.
You know, like some of the device renders that we have seen here, where the physical keys are part of the screen.
BlackBerry 10, CB10 signed ✓11-05-16 09:51 AMLike 4 -
I think there is a market for a dedicated PKB device, but it probably cannot be BlackBerry branded... samsung could pull it off though.
Posted via CB1011-05-16 09:53 AMLike 0 -
Heck, I remember having a stylus on my Palm Pilot, and everyone gave up on that. Now it's the best feature ever (apparently).
The Note's stylus cannot even remotely be compared to the stylus used on the resistive Palm and WinMo screens, which were essentially used for typing and had virtually no drawing capabilities - totally different use-case and existed mostly because there was no way to do anything better at the time.
I think there is a market for a dedicated PKB device, but it probably cannot be BlackBerry branded... samsung could pull it off though.11-05-16 10:44 AMLike 2 -
Samsung still makes PKB phones - on a couple of cheap, entry-level phones. Samsung has tons of market research data, and if they believed that a PKB mid-range or flagship phone would be profitable, they'd be making one. The fact that they don't should tell you something.
Keep Calm N Listen To Babbu Maan.11-05-16 12:46 PMLike 0 -
I realize that long-form, written communication is mundane for many consumers in the 21st century, but, for a significant (if minority) market segment of highly educated professions who have to produce thousands (or tens of thousands) of words daily in emails and other documents while away from their desk , the core writing/editing functions are among the most important features on a mobile phone.
What remains to be seen is whether that really is a profitable market, but the fact that no PKB will be a runaway hit does not mean no one should make a good one.11-05-16 03:11 PMLike 0
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