Blackberry10 low end device?
Is it safe to assume that Blackberry10 will have the best low end device of all? I mean, QNX needs at least Dual Core perhaps 1ghz minimum. As the playbook, that could be the specs for the low end device. not to mention that it could be a low end phone with 4G.. is there any 4G low end phone already? Is important because that way, latin american market that 50% of it uses Blackberry and now they are migrating into LTE, will definitely buy this low end 4g dual core phone.
I think Blackberry in the end has to have the following line up
Aristo: a Beast
London: the main touchscreen device
Milan: a slider
N-Series: Our beloved bold
B-Series: our curve low end phone
- 12-12-12, 01:34 PM #2
Blackberry10 low end device
Obviously a low end device has been in talks here in the forums for a long time, however, I don't know, for bb10 to be enjoyable it needs some pretty decent specs.
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- 12-12-12, 01:38 PM #3
I kinda hope they don't make a "low end" device, but instead make their flagship phones more affordable (subsidies, rebates, trade in, etc.)
If they do make a "low end" phone, keep it in developing countries only and let the flagship model win over people's perception in North America.
- 12-12-12, 01:48 PM #4
- 12-12-12, 02:01 PM #6
A low end device could simply be os8 and run bbos. OR Rim could even sell the 9810/9900 to satisfy the low end of the market. Im not sure how they can build a low end BlackBerry10 phone?
- 12-12-12, 02:11 PM #8
My bet is that low end BB10s will be 3G with PB (or similar) processing power. It wouldn't make sense to put 4G/LTE chips in those, people need to have sense that its a lower end device. And probably no front end camera and some other sensors.
- 12-12-12, 03:51 PM #9
- 12-12-12, 04:18 PM #10
I forget how clueless some people here can be about devices outside of BlackBerry. The Dev Alpha devices are low ended. The L-series is low end based on what its rumored specs are. So far every BlackBerry device that we know about is low end. They are just now catching up to the hardware that Android OEMs were using almost 2 years ago.
Android devices with BB10 like specs launch for $49 or free on contract these days. I'm talking about phones with a dual core snap dragon processor, 1gb of ram, front and rear cameras and 4G LTE connectivity. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking LG lucid, Samsung Galaxy Stellar, and the Pantech Maurader. All 3 of those phones are low end turds. Devices that I consider dumpster devices because there isn't anything special about them. But they all 3 offer what BB10 is rumored to be launching with. All 3 of them are free with a contract also and all 3 have access to a fully developed ecosystem with every app a consumer could want or need. Kinda makes me wonder how well RIM's low end devices with a high end device price will perform with all those cheaper options available.
I mean the BB10 devices will probably launch at $200-$300 with a new 2 year agreement. The Nexus 4 packs a quad core and 2gb of ram for $300 and no contract at all. Its very concerning. I'm not sure what RIM is going to do, but they need to figure out a way to make their BB10 devices dirt cheap for consumers or equip them with hardware that is competitive for the price.
- 12-12-12, 04:27 PM #11
Re: Blackberry10 low end device
Unless we're talking about camera, battery, screen resolution or antenna, specs don't really matter when comparing two devices with completely different Operating Systems.
- 12-12-12, 04:31 PM #12
I'm talking about random, normal everyday consumer at the carrier store. He sees 4 phones. All 4 of them have dual core processors, 1gb of ram, dual cameras, and 4G LTE. 3 of them are free with a new contract and 1 of them costs $200-$300 on contract.
Yeah, I'm sure the normal everyday consumer won't see an issue with that at all.
- 12-12-12, 04:54 PM #15
- 12-12-12, 04:54 PM #16
2. I doubt that those lower end Android devices you are mentioning have a screen and ppi like the L, with by all reports is phenomenal. Also what are the other components used in the devices (WiFi/Bluetooth Chips, power managment chips, etc.)? There is much more to a phone than GHz and cores. Also how much R&D did those companies put into the the OS, and are they all paying the licensing fees that RIM pays to other companies for the IP that they are using in their "free" OS. RIM has to pay these fees to do business, Android OEM's are being slowly sued to pay for their use of the same technology.
3. The Nexus4 you mention at that price is being subsidized by Google. The retail cost of the phone for the carriers to sell it is $499. This has upset the carriers that they can't sell the phone outright for as cheap as Google can.
The generalizations you through out gloss over a lot of important things that affect the cost and performance of a phone.
- 12-12-12, 04:58 PM #17
Do you think the sales reps are going to tell customers that "it is really optimized, so just ignore the fact that this phone has 2 year old hardware and it costs as much or more as phones with top of the line, current hardware."
I wish RIM could optimize and fine tune using current hardware instead of old hardware. Just think, you would be even better off then and we'd have a justifiable reason to pay a high end price for the phone.
- 12-12-12, 05:09 PM #18
Customers care about 3 things..... apps, Mhz, screen. They don't even care about memory on a phone because they're not even sure what it does. All they know is bigger is better.
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