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1. BBM would absolutely be re-written unless you just don't want it to work without a BB data plan. This would defeat the purpose of this whole discussion because again we'd be leaving things out of the picture if people decided not to have a data plan.1) BBM doesn't need to be rewritten. It can continue to work via RIM's NOC for all I care.
2) Email capabilities need to have an option for either going through the NOC or not. (This will be a hard one to accomplish, but I'd love native ActiveSync support on BB... never going to happen though, lol.)
3) Browser passing through RIM servers is bullisht and the new one better not need to do this. That is total hogwash and it's only good from the sales to carrier perspective for RIM. They can throttle back the data being sent/received by the browser to limit the amount the carrier pays for data to you.
Face it guys, RIM's in business to tailor to the carriers first and then to the big companies that bought BES from them. Everything else is NOT a priority to them and this is how their business model was written from the very beginning. I'm not saying they should change the model to meet consumer demand for individuals, I'm marely trying to show you guys at how "old school" their infrastructure vision really is.
Also, WinMo is far from being the most popular platform in the smartphone market right now. Sure, it's still widely used by companies that don't want BB or support BB at the same time, but that's because they want Push email capabilities with ActiveSync security policies. Up until recently, no other phone supported such policies. The 3GS now does and I'm hoping other smartphone OS devs will follow this same guideline if they want to succeed in the business market. I think the main reason why a lot of big businesses don't want to support other devices is because they are "comfortable". They have become complacent with lackluster designs and a tired UI that is BB. They don't care because they always go back to their overplayed record of "Email works on it.". That's not good enough anymore, people want more.... even those attached to BES. We want FULL Emails in rich HTML formats so we can read the SOBs like we would in Outlook. We don't want any more trucated emails because "it's good for the carrier's data revenue". We don't want our file downloads limited because "it's good for the carrier's data revenue".
RIM need to come out of the 90's already. What they are still doing is bullisht and they know it. Unfortunately, they are no different then a drug pusher... they get people hooked and then they don't even have to keep selling you the good stuff, they can sell you cheap isht and you'll still buy it. (This being the case with current hardware QC standards we've been seeing out of them for the past couple of years. It's gone to isht because rather then making a handset of higher quality, they'd rather save that money and add it to the bottom line to make the investors happy and bring in more money so that Steve can spend it on his hockey love.)
2. Why would RIM allow integration with ActiveSync when BES exists? If RIM did, it would essentially be giving Microsoft a very large chunk of control over it's devices. RIM would have to be completely insane to allow this.
3. Thier infrastructure isn't "old school" at all. Poll e-mail has been available since the first devices. Push e-mail was the newer technology RIM introduced and what made RIM successfull. Others have followed in making this available.
I never said Windows Mobile was the most popular platform, I just said that although being feature rich and doing exactly what you want it to do (activesync integration, poll e-mail, etc etc), it does not have nearly the sales numbers that Blackberry or iPhone does.01-04-10 10:10 AM - I support part of your position, but I disagree with accepting as conventional wisdom, that BlackBerry Smart phones are experiencing unusual quality control problems.
The members of an online forum are not a representative cross section of BlackBerry owners. The vast majority have never experienced a hardware issue, as would be expected with modern manufacture quality control.
International Organization for Standardization (ISO) came into being during the first World War. The mobilization of industry meant a lot of accidents happened in the munitions and munitions handling. The accident in Halifax Harbour was a result of "poor quality control".
For a manufacture to adhere to ISO9001 standards, all phases of manufacture and handling are documented with measurable established. One of the key measurable is returns due to manufactures defects. There are professionals that monitor that on an ongoing basis, their feed back is incorporated in the manufacture process.
The carriers on the other hand, couldn't care less. They are empowered to exchange handsets to resolve nearly any customer complaint.
We know the new Brower is under development, it is just a matter of time now.3) Browser passing through RIM servers is bullisht and the new one better not need to do this. That is total hogwash and it's only good from the sales to carrier perspective for RIM. They can throttle back the data being sent/received by the browser to limit the amount the carrier pays for data to you. ...
UK Mobile phone operator O2 apologizes for service problems caused by smartphones - Winnipeg Free Press
However, when it does release, I hope the wizards at Research in Motion will have taken note what happen on Christmas Day in the UK. O2 was swamped with new Smart Phones coming on line, service was down all day and intermittent through Boxing Day. We all know which 50% of the Smart Phone market caused that.
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