Is blackberry really losing marketshare??

**kazza295** · 04-22-2012, 04:58 PM

I live in london and am 16 years old. In the past few years there has been a rapid increase in the amount of teens with bbs and the only phone with similar market share is the iphone. I recently read in a magazine that 37% of teens in england have blackberries which is pretty astonishing considering blackberry is "dying". Im also seeing more and more people wondering around with os7 devices so theyre definately sticking to the platform through upgrades. my question is this: what is the situation like in other countries and age groups??

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**hankj25** · 04-22-2012, 05:02 PM

U are 16 and have had 9 blackberrys.

Wow.

**sam_b77** · 04-22-2012, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by kazza295

I live in london and am 16 years old. In the past few years there has been a rapid increase in the amount of teens with bbs and the only phone with similar market share is the iphone. I recently read in a magazine that 37% of teens in england have blackberries which is pretty astonishing considering blackberry is "dying". Im also seeing more and more people wondering around with os7 devices so theyre definately sticking to the platform through upgrades. my question is this: what is the situation like in other countries and age groups??

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my bb history : R900,7230,8100,8120,8320,8520,8900,9000,9700

Wait a second. you say you are 16 yrs old and your BB history says you used the 7230 which was launched in 2003. So basically you had the 7230 when you were seven years old??

And the R900 which was a device in 2000, so you would have to be 4 yrs old. I don't think the R900 would even work on modern networks.

What I'm curious about is what did you do as a four yr old that you required a pager?? And then when you were 7 yrs old you needed a 7230. You must be one of those young genius surgeons.

**kazza295** · 04-22-2012, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by sam_b77

Wait a second. you say you are 16 yrs old and your BB history says you used the 7230 which was launched in 2003. So basically you had the 7230 when you were seven years old??

And the R900 which was a device in 2000, so you would have to be 4 yrs old. I don't think the R900 would even work on modern networks.

What I'm curious about is what did you do as a four yr old that you required a pager?? And then when you were 7 yrs old you needed a 7230. You must be one of those young genius surgeons.

Yeah lol

basically i buy broken or faulty phones cheaply fix then up and sell them on and the favourite devices i keep and use. This has allowed to own and use a large variety of devices dating quite far back but my dad actually brought me home a few old blackberry R900s from work when i was about ten so yeah i was quite young

but this is all off topic

the real question is marketshare

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**sam_b77** · 04-22-2012, 05:14 PM

That explains it.

As to the market share debate, welcome aboard and join in the whole "where is RIM headed" conversation going on all over crackberry.

**robsteve** · 04-22-2012, 05:23 PM

The worldwide market is getting bigger and BlackBerry is still gaining customers. What is happening is as the market gets larger their are more competitors, so BlackBerry's slice of the bigger pie is a smaller percentage of the pie.

It is not clear if in some countries where they are losing market share, whether they are actually going down in total customer count.

**kazza295** · 04-22-2012, 05:33 PM

it justs seems so odd and frustrating that everyone keeps saying that blackberry is dying and failing and will be gone in a few years yet all im seeing is exponential growth (fancy word

). now i understand theyre not doing as well in America but they cant be doing that badly. and why are they losing profit?

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my bb history : R900,7230,8100,8120,8320,8520,8900,9000,9700

**JAGWIRE** · 04-22-2012, 05:43 PM

IMO:
the reason i think why "everyone is saying" that BB/RIM is dieing is due to the American Media. here is Canada we have more American TV stations then Canadian. So we get all their commercials and all their news. Apple is the top phone in The States so that is the one that is going to get all the media. Also American media is based off fear and bad news so they are going to take a little story, like RIM's shares dropping, and run with it making it look like its much bigger then it is.
again IMO

**kazza295** · 04-22-2012, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by JAGWIRE

IMO:
the reason i think why "everyone is saying" that BB/RIM is dieing is due to the American Media. here is Canada we have more American TV stations then Canadian. So we get all their commercials and all their news. Apple is the top phone in The States so that is the one that is going to get all the media. Also American media is based off fear and bad news so they are going to take a little story, like RIM's shares dropping, and run with it making it look like its much bigger then it is.
again IMO

this is exactly what seems to be happening. i look at tech blogs and they all worship iphones and android but just hate on bb which i find unfair seeing as theyre meant to be impartial.

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**iRy757** · 04-22-2012, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by kazza295

it justs seems so odd and frustrating that everyone keeps saying that blackberry is dying and failing and will be gone in a few years yet all im seeing is exponential growth (fancy word

). now i understand theyre not doing as well in America but they cant be doing that badly. and why are they losing profit?

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my bb history : R900,7230,8100,8120,8320,8520,8900,9000,9700

It's a lot different in America, anything with buzz is what appeals to the masses. People here will disregard their own opinions to follow something that's "cool" or "in trend".

**hootyhoo** · 04-22-2012, 07:37 PM

Communities Dominate Brands: So the Digital Jamboree starts: Q1 Results from RIM are horrid - Blackberry in tailspin

**kennyliu** · 04-22-2012, 11:40 PM

As somebody already mentioned, RIM is gaining customers but is losing market share across the globe pretty badly. I remember reading that, in the last 3-4 years, the share of Blackberrys went down from about 15% to about 3% WORLDWIDE.

I will try to find the source for the above, but here is something in the meantime:

iPhone OS still dominates mobile web; Android on the way up

**addicted44** · 04-22-2012, 11:42 PM

People are saying that RIM is dying because of their rapidly declining profit margins. This isn't that hard folks. RIM is gaining numbers because it is continually dropping prices of their phones in order to sell them. As a result their profits continue to drop precipitously. Hence, the claim that the company (whose lifeblood like any other company's is profits) is dying.