- 10-28-2013, 04:21 AM #28
- 10-28-2013, 07:09 AM #29
My theory: The NSA spies on people using less than secure devices/services. What phones does the NSA require their agents to use? BlackBerry. If it's secure enough for their own people to use, then it must be the "best" of the available devices in regards to security. (<tinfoilhat> Now who knows what "else" they have done to the phones/BES to make them "more" secure </tinfoilhat>) They can pry mine from my cold, dead hands.
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10-28-2013, 08:20 AM #31_________________________________________
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10-28-2013, 08:54 AM #33
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- 10-28-2013, 09:46 AM #35
- 10-28-2013, 10:07 AM #40
I'll let any security experts in the forum address this, but the overall feeling of the NSA scandal being a marketing advantage for BlackBerry is highly oversold and the whole 'I don't want the NSA spying on me' grumbling is just the start. I'd be shocked if Mi6, Mossad, ISI, or what have you don't have similar programmes as well.
- 10-28-2013, 12:23 PM #42
It's disgusting, pathetic and sad how there are people who think this whole NSA, etc. fiasco is not true, overblown, exagerrated, not a big deal, who cares, etc. This is why there is so much anti privacy, anti security, anti constitutional, etc. crap and we keep losing rights because there are enough people who are naive, stupid sheep who think it's not a big deal and nothing super bad can happen to them directly because of it.
- 10-28-2013, 12:27 PM #43
I dont believe BlackBerry's security is completely sound. Even TrueCrypt got violated by the US federal government and it wouldn't surprise me if the NSA or the Canadian equivalent has a backdoor into BB's servers. None of you can refute this because you cannot even begin to fathom the methods a spy agency would have to get exactly what they want and if they did have a backdoor, do you think BB is going to tell you the truth??BlackBerry History: 8220 > 9800 > 9810 > 9900 > DevAlpha A > Z10 > Z30
- 10-28-2013, 12:56 PM #44
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10-28-2013, 01:33 PM #45
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A couple of quick questions:
1) If BlackBerry provided end to end security for phone calls and SMS why would there ever be a need for things like CellCrypt and PhoneCrypt, both of which provide solutions for BlackBerry as well as the other platforms?
2) What compromises to security exist if one is using a BlackBerry and the person at the other end of that communication is using. say, an iPhone?
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10-28-2013, 01:57 PM #46
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This doesn't even make sense considering BlackBerry's new stance of "we're focusing on enterprise now, consumers can buy our phones now too though."
Why risk piss1ng off what I'd argue is the biggest enterprise customer in the world? The government could turn around and deploy iPhones and Androids across the board.
Then who will be buying BlackBerrys by the thousands? BlackBerry just isn't in the position to be doing something so brash right now.Sean
- 10-28-2013, 02:14 PM #47
I don't see how NSA can spy on BlackBerry since each packet has its own unique 256-bit key and Blackberry say they have no backdoor.
"In the context of the BlackBerry solution, we use multiple sources of entropy to create dynamic and changing keys that ensure that mobile data is encrypted and unreadable until it is safely delivered and decrypted at its destination. These keys change for every packet of data that is sent. So when you receive a one megabyte presentation on your device that actually represents 500 individual packets (or transactions) – each encrypted with a unique key."
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- 10-28-2013, 04:03 PM #48
Encrypting data before it leaves the enterprise and decrypting it after it has been delivered is essential. Strong encryption like AES-256, which is at the core of the BlackBerry solution, works to protect the integrity of the data at all points outside of your control ? which any network engineer or security professional will tell you is a hostile and untrustworthy territory.
Enterprise = BES.
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- 10-28-2013, 04:30 PM #49
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10-28-2013, 04:42 PM #50
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I see references to "most secure", "more secure" in articles about BlackBerry all the time. In the mainstream press. So no matter how secure, or how much more secure, or whatever else anyone wants to debate, that a BB is or is not -- the perception of better security is already there with the brand.
So it is something they can take advantage of. In fact even if they do nothing it's already benefiting them in the enterprise, I think.
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