- 01-02-2013, 12:30 AM #26
in all honesty...
i know that a lot of the 80 M current holders are in countries that may not be able to afford a brand new top of the line smartphone... so in reality we would probably need a number like 20 - 30% of 'elite' subscribers to convert, which i think isnt that bad. I know that i DONT have a BB phone (never have) but i REALLY want a BB 10 device after falling in love with my PB.
- 01-02-2013, 12:50 AM #27
I agree on the sales numbers and it would have been in RIM's best interest to have both phones available for purchase at the same time. I can't see 25-30 million devices sold unless it includes bbos sales along with BB10. The Galaxy note 2 came out in Sept and by late Nov had sold 5 million devices; Today they just announced 1 million more sold in South Korea and are believed to get to 10 million soon at the current rate. These are numbers for an extremely hot flagship phone which will inevitably slow down but it only has the Droid DNA and couple other phablets to worry about. RIM can only hope that the product is well received but how long will 2 non-flagship phones carry them before getting overshadowed by the quad-core monsters getting released early next year. The qwerty version will not sell well if priced the same as the bold is today but the z10 should have a great initial spurt if priced correctly.
- 01-02-2013, 12:57 AM #28
you cant really compare any phone with another without taking things into consideration.
not everyone wants a phone with the screen size as the note... a VERY big fact that needs to be looked at
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01-02-2013, 01:10 AM #29
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Didn't analyst predict about 70% of the current blackberry subscribers would purchase the new BB10 phones? Going from what they said that would be about 54 million handhelds sold!
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- 01-02-2013, 01:15 AM #30
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- 01-02-2013, 01:38 AM #34
"Hey people we're releasing two new phones but don't buy them, we'll have a better one in six months."
*edit ^^ Looks like Drew and I were typing at the same time.RIM is dead. Long live BlackBerry!
- 01-02-2013, 01:39 AM #35
we have the specs (or idea of it) at least a confirmation on timeline of release
- 01-02-2013, 01:46 AM #36RIM is dead. Long live BlackBerry!
- 01-02-2013, 07:54 AM #37
1)It's difficult to change the image of a company, people won't rush to buy these phones.
2)BlackBerry 10 is new software, surely has many bugs. Press will be as unmerciful as they are with Windows Phone or Surface.
3)Most BlackBerry 10 apps are fast ports from Android apps, so expect low quality and bugs. Updates and fixes for BlackBerry 10 are the last priority for devs.
4)RIM is trying to maximize the money that can extract from fans and companies with existing investments. Phones are going to be expensive and won't introduce more affordable devices for the most part of the first year.
Next year things should be better, this year is about surviving and building the platform.
- 01-02-2013, 08:45 AM #39
This will be a major hurdle to cross. Everyone that I have talked to who has even heard about BB10 says that they will take a wait and see approach and I think that a lot of consumers who have switched to IOS or Android will not jump ship immediately. People will judge RIM by the last couple of products released and will only give BB10 a chance if the reviews are great. Most of these people are already biased and may not give the platform a look no matter how good it is.
- 01-02-2013, 08:52 AM #40
From the RIM quartly report on Dec 20
Shipments of 6.9 million smartphones and 255,000 PlayBooks~S_A
- 01-02-2013, 08:57 AM #41
- 01-02-2013, 09:14 AM #42
I'm guessing around 9 million.
BB10 sales will have a quick burst in sales when it's released - it won't be iPhone or SGIII numbers obviously, but it'll be a nice jump for RIM giving them optimism.
However, I think after that initial phase of 30-60 days, sales will slow down considerably causing some major changes.
* This is all under the assumption that the BB10 launch doesn't bring any MAJOR surprises that will create a big WOW factor (and I don't consider getting popular apps that are available on iOS/Android to have WOW factor).
- 01-02-2013, 09:30 AM #43
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- 01-02-2013, 09:33 AM #44
- 01-02-2013, 10:22 AM #45
I'm just going to say enough to make a profit to continue on improving and increasing.Sent from me using my fingers. Be pantless in 5K. Febreze - for more than smells.
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UPGRADE existing users to BB 10. Don't want to price devices too low? Start a 'trade-up' program. Let existing BB users exchange their old (even non-working) devices for new BB10. Eg: Old BlackBerry + $250 = Z10 This way, you won't have to officially lower your MSRP.
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01-02-2013, 12:42 PM #47QNX and LTE, hand me a pen and let's do this.
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01-02-2013, 06:14 PM #48
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Furthermore, I and several other BB fans and/or loyalists have been waiting for BB10 device since they were announced almost 2 years ago. With a consumer base of 80 million users, if 25% upgrade this year then that is 20 million phones. In addition I work with over 5000 people and there is a decent fraction of former BB users that switched to other platforms because BBOS v6.0 wasnít getting the job done, and they will be returning if BB10 is as good as what we seen so far. With personal information security, and the ability to make payments via NFC right from your phone there will be awakening for many people and they will realize their phones arenít very secure and that the only certified to be secure phones on the market are BB devices. Corporations and Governments that must control the flow of vital and sensitive information all use BB devices to protect their data from falling into the wrong hands. I am sure there will be a migration of IOS and Android users to BB10 both new and returning customers. BB10 phones will have a excellent user experience while providing a secure device to do it. So with that said 20-25 million isnít such an unrealistic number anymore.
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