[BlackberryFan2009]

Anyone know?

[GTiLeo]

Stated it will use OLED on release then possibly switch to LCD on later models to save on the build

[mikeo007]

Super AMOLED is a Samsung marketing term.

[jmb12177]

Super AMOLED is not a marketing term, it is a technology. Apples retenia display is just a marketing term. Samsung is as far as I know, the largest manufacture of oled screens and variations.

Super is for the high pixel density

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this is very different from current LCD screens in many ways.
And LED tv's, are just LCD tv's that use LED's for a back light. Not even close to AMOLED.

Please do a little research before you make a claim about something that you know nothing about.

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[GTiLeo]

Super AMOLED is not a marketing term, it is a technology. Apples retenia display is just a marketing term. Samsung is as far as I know, the largest manufacture of oled screens and variations.

Super is for the high pixel density

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this is very different from current LCD screens in many ways.
And LED tv's, are just LCD tv's that use LED's for a back light. Not even close to AMOLED.

Please do a little research before you make a claim about something that you know nothing about.

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agreed, where as Retina is simply a term given by Apple to claim high pixel desity that the human eye can not render from a set distance

[BBPandy]

Stated it will use OLED on release then possibly switch to LCD on later models to save on the build

I did not know that...maybe they will use the same screen as the HTC One X. That LCD2 screen is the best screen I have ever seen.....too bad the rest of the phone isn't as good as it's screen.

[mikeo007]

Super AMOLED is not a marketing term, it is a technology. Apples retenia display is just a marketing term. Samsung is as far as I know, the largest manufacture of oled screens and variations.

Super is for the high pixel density

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this is very different from current LCD screens in many ways.
And LED tv's, are just LCD tv's that use LED's for a back light. Not even close to AMOLED.

Please do a little research before you make a claim about something that you know nothing about.

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Check your sources:

HD Super AMOLED is a branding from Samsung for an HD-resolution (>1280×720) Super AMOLED display.
AMOLED - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exactly the same as "Retina" branding.

[owadkelly]

I thought they were using In Plane switching (IPS) technology? similar to LG

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[timmy t]

owadkelly, that is what I thought too.
Of course, maybe it will change before they start making the production models.

[cgk]

Check your sources:

HD Super AMOLED is a branding from Samsung for an HD-resolution (>1280×720) Super AMOLED display.
AMOLED - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exactly the same as "Retina" branding.

Go back and read it again.

[richardat]

Check your sources:

HD Super AMOLED is a branding from Samsung for an HD-resolution (>1280×720) Super AMOLED display.
AMOLED - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exactly the same as "Retina" branding.

ai yi yi.....arguing about marketing terms now....I guess it's a tribute to marketing!

Yes, both terms are proprietary marketing terms. Mike007 is correct. Retina was chosen to reflect Apple's screen density. Super AMOLED was what Samsung used to describe their last gen. screens.

Super AMOLED probaby confuses some people since it's more technology descriptive than simply "retina", so one might THINK it is a formal name for a technology...though the "super" should be a dead giveaway...as well as "active matrix" ! LOL. Those of us around long enough to remember color laptops where passive screens were an option will know that all monitors...and ALMOST all phones....certainly any even mid-level phone are active matrix.

What you then end up with is that essentially you have a high density LCD in Apple vs a high density OLED in Samsung....named with their special pet names. Samsung's is more specific, since, in theory, Apple could choose to make a retina display with OLED if they wished. Pros and cons to OLED vs LCD, which are well documented.

[SuperionMaximus]

The initial L-Series is definitely IPS LCD. The N-Series I believe will be AMOLED. Going forward I believe I recall a leaked slideshow or two (the one where the 720P resolution being decided as the standard resolution and the one that revealed the light and dark themes) mentioning that RIM has decided to use AMOLED in future products due to the power efficiency especially with the dark theme.

But who knows what will actually be the case down the road, RIM may very well end up using both technologies in different products to achieve different target price/performance goals.

[mikeo007]

Go back and read it again.

I did, am I missing something? AMOLED is a technology. Super AMOLED is a marketing term.

[Balti43]

Stated it will use OLED on release then possibly switch to LCD on later models to save on the build

Which is better quality?

[Taigatrommel]

Which is better quality?

You can't really tell honestly. There are way too many factors which come into play when chosing which one is supperior.

As for the technology, AMOLED usually has brighter colors (some people call them too bright) and "true" black. True black because the color black is simply displayed by an inactive pixel. Instead of using a traditional backlight, basicly every pixel lights on its own. Let's say your phone is displaying a largely black area with some text - the display would consume virtually no power at all, because most pixels are simply off. The negative side however would be very bright colors, white especially. Displaying a pure white picture consumes much more energy than a traditional LCD display.

When using the right apps and themes, an AMOLED display can help you to really save power of your battery. It is also useful for on-demand status information. Check out this "screensaver" made for Nokia AMOLED phones:

Sleeping Screen displays a clock, a special converted image, as well as animations and icons for notifications like missed calls or texts. Having Sleeping Screen enabled has no noticable impact on battery performance, especially not when using a pouche. Sleeping Screen is one of the many little yet convenient things I miss from my former Nokia.

[GTiLeo]

Which is better quality?

OLED uses less power then LCD thus better battery life. the N4BB blog that i read that they will be using OLED then there may be a switch, but that might just be in their low end and mid end

http://n4bb.com/exclusive-blackberry...erty-ui-specs/

I did, am I missing something? AMOLED is a technology. Super AMOLED is a marketing term.

where this differs from Apples Retina sales pitch is that Samsung is using the actual display type in the name and added super for the high pixel density, its far from a sales pitch to make it seem like its something different then it actually is, its still an AMOLED and a pretty generic term where as Apple just says Retina display, can be in any form of screen type weather its LCD plasma or LED, and a way to make it seem like its different technology, which it isn't


from your wiki link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED#Super_AMOLED
"Super AMOLED

Super AMOLED is Samsung's term for an AMOLED display with an integrated digitizer, meaning, the layer that detects touch is integrated into the screen, rather than being overlaid on top of it. According to Samsung, Super AMOLED reflects 5 times less sunlight compared to the first generation AMOLED.[18][19] The display technology itself is not changed."

[ichat]

A few words here:

Keep dreaming

We will have a somewhat hi def screen similar to the PlayBook

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[GTiLeo]

doesn' the dev alpha already use OLED ?

[richardat]

Which is better quality?

As Taigatrommel pointed out, it really depends on the implementation, and they're all doing so well, there is no sure consensus. In general, as he mentioned, OLED tends to be more saturated (but some accuse it of being oversaturated) and with higher contrast, and so the colors "pop" nicely, on the other hand, many say it is harder to read in the sun. Some are concerned that the organic displays may degrade relatively quickly in brightness, and they haven't been able to produce as a high a density as LCD (Retina) displays. You really just have to look at each phone screen and see what you like, but the truth is, unless you're looking at the exact same picture, in the exact same conditions, with the equivalent brightness settings on each, you probably couldn't even make a subjective judgment with any validity.

[JAGWIRE]

guess we will just have to see at launch

[jmb12177]

I'm hoping for the super AMOLED, my wifes old phone was a samsung galaxy S, and it has an AMOLED screen, the colors are amazingly vivid, no wash out from a back light, no light leaks between pixels, or around the sides of the screen. And the contrast between black and white is better than anything that I have ever seen before.

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[jegs2]

Which is better quality?

The value of the OLED is that blacks are truly black, since the pixel that is showing black is just turned off. So you would see no light bleed-through on a black background (really useful for those of us who use our BBs at night as alarm clocks).

On the other hand, OLED uses more juice when not showing black pixels, since each pixel is its own light source. Since that's the case, there's no need for a backlight like in most LCDs, so the display takes up less space.

Finally, there's a 'bleed-out' of a particular color over time with OLED.

[GTiLeo]

The value of the OLED is that blacks are truly black, since the pixel that is showing black is just turned off. So you would see no light bleed-through on a black background (really useful for those of us who use our BBs at night as alarm clocks).

On the other hand, OLED uses more juice when not showing black pixels, since each pixel is its own light source. Since that's the case, there's no need for a backlight like in most LCDs, so the display takes up less space.

Finally, there's a 'bleed-out' of a particular color over time with OLED.

from past reports RIM will be incorperating more black in the background since it uses less power so in turn the possibility of OLED use and the explanation you have given may hint at the use of OLED displays on the BB10 devices

[BBPandy]

OLED also has a greater issue with "Burn In" then LCD

[richardat]

from past reports RIM will be incorperating more black in the background since it uses less power so in turn the possibility of OLED use and the explanation you have given may hint at the use of OLED displays on the BB10 devices

That would make sense....I've noted a few times in this thread touting OLED as being more power efficient, but that's misleading. It depends on the usage, and in the real-world, often the OLED has been less power-efficient. In any case, the current cream-of-the-crop in terms of screen quality seems to be the LCD iphone 5. It would seem, at least right now, the best of LCD is better than what AMOLED can manage, though OLED seems to be the future.