Any of you get upset when people try to use a Berry without a data plan?
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Stop taking everything so personally just because I disagree with some things you say. Seriously.08-12-08 05:16 PMLike 0 - that's not a verizon store, that's an authorized dealer, and no offense to your boss, as he may try to run a very tight ship with proper info for his reps, but, if I had a penny for every time I've heard misinformation out of an authorized dealer, I'd be the owner of 5 ferraris 2 million dollar homes, and would never have to work again.
the only place you get ACCURATE info from any cell company is corporate locations, and the company is the only one that owns those locations.
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Im not taking it personally, you jumped on me when I pointed out what another poster said about it being required...and in that same post said some require it some dont and you told me to do my research and said the same thing. Nothing a stranger says to me is going to be taken personally.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-12-08 05:18 PMLike 0 - ok, but, here's the point, if verizon, sprint, at&t, and alltel all do require it, the only major carrier that I haven't verified requires the data package with purchase of a blackberry is t-mobile....so, if they don't require it, that'd mean that they're the only one that doesn't.....but, I promise there are AT&T users that don't have the data package, does that mean AT&T doesn't require it? no, it just means they've removed it and AT&T can't verify that they're still using a blackberry.
as far as the "you can use it but you'll get charged for what you use" that doesn't apply on blackberry devices, because the carrier isn't providing the data directly, they're providing link up to RIM, RIM sends the service books as well. When you go into your configuration on your phone, and do a nameserver lookup on the DNS addresses, they're with RIM, when you look up any of the other addresses you can find, they ALL point to RIM, your carrier just acts as a gateway, much like buying DSL from AT&T but using AOL as your ISP.08-12-08 05:22 PMLike 0 - ok, but, here's the point, if verizon, sprint, at&t, and alltel all do require it, the only major carrier that I haven't verified requires the data package with purchase of a blackberry is t-mobile....so, if they don't require it, that'd mean that they're the only one that doesn't.....but, I promise there are AT&T users that don't have the data package, does that mean AT&T doesn't require it? no, it just means they've removed it and AT&T can't verify that they're still using a blackberry.
as far as the "you can use it but you'll get charged for what you use" that doesn't apply on blackberry devices, because the carrier isn't providing the data directly, they're providing link up to RIM, RIM sends the service books as well. When you go into your configuration on your phone, and do a nameserver lookup on the DNS addresses, they're with RIM, when you look up any of the other addresses you can find, they ALL point to RIM, your carrier just acts as a gateway, much like buying DSL from AT&T but using AOL as your ISP.
Im done going in circles.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-12-08 05:27 PMLike 0 - ^^ exactly what I was trying to do, there's the ability to "pay for what you use" with any device that your carrier is the one providing the service, however, with a blackberry, unless you are paying for the service, your carrier doesn't create your gateway to RIM, which means that you simply cannot use, because there is nothing there to use.08-12-08 05:46 PMLike 0
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- Guys I didn't mean to start WW3 or anything with this thread. Yes, I may have worded it wrong in the first place to a degree. It all boiled down to coming to the site asking members for workarounds and things of the sort just as asking us how to help them STEAL a CURVE or IPHONE that they so-called found. People were saying that we should mind our own business but what they don't realize is that they made it our business when they came to the site asking how to do things without a data plan in the first place. We've already had people admit that they don't have them which will help one of your theories that on certain carriers they weren't required because of the sim card and such, which by the way makes sense I might add. Another major point that we were all trying to add was the fact of the Data making up the Berry and having full potential, and if you're not going to have Data, why even buy a Berry?? Some have had good reasons why they don't have one but the others that post here asking for a workaround in my opinion is just trying to beat the system and don't want to pay the $30 bucks a month for Data. We have had many of those post that were trying to beat the system. What say all of you???
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-12-08 06:35 PMLike 0 - Guys I didn't mean to start WW3 or anything with this thread. Yes, I may have worded it wrong in the first place to a degree. It all boiled down to coming to the site asking members for workarounds and things of the sort just as asking us how to help them STEAL a CURVE or IPHONE that they so-called found. People were saying that we should mind our own business but what they don't realize is that they made it our business when they came to the site asking how to do things without a data plan in the first place. We've already had people admit that they don't have them which will help one of your theories that on certain carriers they weren't required because of the sim card and such, which by the way makes sense I might add. Another major point that we were all trying to add was the fact of the Data making up the Berry and having full potential, and if you're not going to have Data, why even buy a Berry?? Some have had good reasons why they don't have one but the others that post here asking for a workaround in my opinion is just trying to beat the system and don't want to pay the $30 bucks a month for Data. We have had many of those post that were trying to beat the system. What say all of you???
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There's two groups of people who don't want to pay for data. Those who are, pardon my saying, too cheap to do so but still want it, and those who simply cannot afford it and don't even try the work-arounds. I still can't help but think, however, that a Blackberry is a waste without data. Otherwise, again, it's just like any other phone.08-12-08 06:41 PMLike 0 - Yeah, it's amazing how unethical people can be over a few dollars. I agree if you aren't going to get the data why not just buy a PDA instead? Not trying to inflame this thread just saying why bother with a BB when a PDA will do most of what people are looking for.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-12-08 06:41 PMLike 0 - I buy tennis shoes and don't play tennis Do you think tennis players around the world should all go into convulsions and tell me I'm ridiculous
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE..... if someone wants to PAY MY BILL I would be happy to order all the Berry services available whether I need them or not08-12-08 06:59 PMLike 0 - Yeah, it's amazing how unethical people can be over a few dollars. I agree if you aren't going to get the data why not just buy a PDA instead? Not trying to inflame this thread just saying why bother with a BB when a PDA will do most of what people are looking for.
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-12-08 07:02 PMLike 0 - I buy tennis shoes and don't play tennis Do you think tennis players around the world should all go into convulsions and tell me I'm ridiculous
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE..... if someone wants to PAY MY BILL I would be happy to order all the Berry services available whether I need them or not08-13-08 07:42 AMLike 0 - This is exactly what we're all speaking of people!! Read and take heed!! Trying to beat the system!!
http://forums.crackberry.com/f72/bb-...-alltel-61122/08-13-08 07:50 AMLike 0 - This is exactly what we're all speaking of people!! Read and take heed!! Trying to beat the system!!
http://forums.crackberry.com/f72/bb-...-alltel-61122/08-13-08 07:59 AMLike 0 -
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-13-08 08:45 AMLike 0 - I dunno, down when the OP actually replied to say "it's for my wife, I've got a curve, she just wants it for better texting" I gain a little sympathy, however, not much, with the company he's with, and the setup they offer, it'd only cost him $20 a month and then he's got unlimited data for her too, which, is quite nice, and for a husband/wife, I recommend against texting but rather using BBM since it's considerably more difficult for a BBM message to misroute and end up on the wrong person's phone, whereas in some places, when the network is overloaded, texts can be randomly misdirected.
I think the question "can I do this" is at times a dangerous one because there are a lot of knee **** reactions, "oh you're trying to get over on it" is the most common, until someone says "there's got to be a way to do it" I don't mind, most of the time, it's probably someone just trying to double check what the sales rep told them, trying to make sure they're not getting screwed in the interest of the rep's wallet.08-13-08 08:51 AMLike 0 - I dunno, down when the OP actually replied to say "it's for my wife, I've got a curve, she just wants it for better texting" I gain a little sympathy, however, not much, with the company he's with, and the setup they offer, it'd only cost him $20 a month and then he's got unlimited data for her too, which, is quite nice, and for a husband/wife, I recommend against texting but rather using BBM since it's considerably more difficult for a BBM message to misroute and end up on the wrong person's phone, whereas in some places, when the network is overloaded, texts can be randomly misdirected.
I think the question "can I do this" is at times a dangerous one because there are a lot of knee **** reactions, "oh you're trying to get over on it" is the most common, until someone says "there's got to be a way to do it" I don't mind, most of the time, it's probably someone just trying to double check what the sales rep told them, trying to make sure they're not getting screwed in the interest of the rep's wallet.08-13-08 08:59 AMLike 0 - My thoughts exactly! My husband has absolutely no need and zero time to surf the net or check email on his bb but he uses everything else that doesn't require a data plan: address book, text, alarm, camera, calendar, etc. He had a data plan for a month then he realized he never used it so he got rid of it.08-13-08 09:07 AMLike 0
- While I agree that people who want data should pay for data, why put down people who love their BB as a useful tool and don't feel the need for data? My wife has a Curve + data and uses the email all the time. I am always around a computer and don't need instant email or internet, hence I don't need data. My Pearl is still hands down the best phone I have ever had, way better than my Razr.08-13-08 09:12 AMLike 0
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