Android based blackberry security
- Presuming that blackberry is going to start using android as a base for its new blackberry,how do you think it will effect security concerns?
I have used BlackBerry for a LONG time, and it's because of its security effectiveness. Now that BlackBerry is eyeballing Android, I may end up ditching BlackBerry once and for all unfortunately.
What do you all say?
Posted via CB1009-01-15 12:07 PMLike 0 -
- Yes the BES is the real security portion of the system,however,
so is "on-device storage". The BES is only as secure as the handset allows it to be. Your chain is only as strong as its weakest link.you can have the most advanced security sytem in your home or car, but if the door isn't strong,someone's going to get in.
Let's face it, android OS and android/google apps aren't the most secure programs and OS around. There are inherent risks that an android based blackberry will be exposed to...lack of security in apps development, Google letting anyone post any kind of app that collects data that we as a business/consumer shouldn't be okay with sharing and on top of that, how many Google apps per year are nothing more than Trojan horses for malware,viruses etc.
A lot of people are pining for more apps and "user friendly" devices. Are you willing to risk confidential information in exchange for a couple of sub par apps?
Posted via CB1009-01-15 06:22 PMLike 0 -
Many users fail to realize that BB's vaunted security is mostly a result of BES managing the phone and the security features that BES brings, which, BTW, are targeted towards the needs of an enterprise rather than an end-user - that's why there is no "consumer BES".
But for the most part, the "enhanced security" is an illusion if you aren't on a BES-managed device.09-01-15 06:22 PMLike 2 -
Note that BB10 doesn't have encryption enabled by default, even on the latest versions. Just like older versions of Android and iOS, users have to manually turn the encryption on. So, another example of there being little real difference between most phones.nah.uhh likes this.09-01-15 11:07 PMLike 1 - Well bb10 cannot be rooted or jailbreak'ed but ios and android can.
BlackBerry also has the secure root of trust and android app data sandboxing.
BlackBerry also secure your phone from a hardware level, something no other manufacturer does.
BlackBerry 10 is more secure than android or ios out of the box with or without BES.
But it doesn't mean it's bullet proof.
http://bizblog.blackberry.com/2015/0...-at-endpoints/
Posted via CB1009-02-15 01:15 AMLike 0 - Was your BB10 phone being managed by BES? Because if it wasn't, then your phone was only marginally more secure than any other phone, and with most common services, is identically as secure (or insecure, as the case may be) as other phones.
Many users fail to realize that BB's vaunted security is mostly a result of BES managing the phone and the security features that BES brings, which, BTW, are targeted towards the needs of an enterprise rather than an end-user - that's why there is no "consumer BES".
But for the most part, the "enhanced security" is an illusion if you aren't on a BES-managed device.
http://bizblog.blackberry.com/2015/0...-at-endpoints/
Posted via CB10mathking606 likes this.09-02-15 01:19 AMLike 1 - Well bb10 cannot be rooted or jailbreak'ed but ios and android can.
BlackBerry also has the secure root of trust and android app data sandboxing.
BlackBerry also secure your phone from a hardware level, something no other manufacturer does.
BlackBerry 10 is more secure than android or ios out of the box with or without BES.
But it doesn't mean it's bullet proof.
http://bizblog.blackberry.com/2015/0...-at-endpoints/
Posted via CB10
Typed on my posh black Classic.09-02-15 01:22 AMLike 0 - Prem WatsAppCrackBerry Jester of Jestershttp://money.cnn.com/2015/09/01/tech...ack/index.html
Jailbroken iPhones and accounts pwned... :-\
Just don't do it if you don't know what you're letting yourself into...
� Andro-Loader (TM) - who is gonna leak ...? Black-Berry! dadadada dee dum dee dum... �09-02-15 02:56 AMLike 0 - As I have said a thousand times, if you are worried about security, then don't connect to the grid, period.
Built a bunker, write your thoughts and notes on paper and burn them when your done, have no communication with the outside world.
Quit worrying about every security issue and enjoy life is my motto, use common sense and strong passwords is a good security measure to start with.09-02-15 04:47 AMLike 0 - In theory staying off the grid would be a great idea, but the fact of the matter is, that in my line of work(banking) I need something secure because I have a lot of sensitive information on my device and am always looking for a more secure alternative. If Blackberry goes all android based, I'm out,completely.and will go back to a dumb phone. I just don't trust Apple or Google to keep my data secure enough.
Posted via CB1009-02-15 07:00 AMLike 0 - All I know is, if BlackBerry can properly commercialise a secure android, and when I say secure I mean DOD, NATO, G7 approved, the company stock will skyrocket.
So I'm guessing they will try to make this happen.
Posted via CB1009-02-15 07:45 AMLike 0 - In theory staying off the grid would be a great idea, but the fact of the matter is, that in my line of work(banking) I need something secure because I have a lot of sensitive information on my device and am always looking for a more secure alternative. If Blackberry goes all android based, I'm out,completely.and will go back to a dumb phone. I just don't trust Apple or Google to keep my data secure enough.
Posted via CB10
I sometimes think these security issues are blown way out of proportion, your Blackberry OS10 device is no more secure then any other device out there unless your on a BES server, period. Strong passwords and common sense is what I preach to the folks who ask me about having good security on the devices. Just my two cents.09-02-15 07:58 AMLike 0 - In theory staying off the grid would be a great idea, but the fact of the matter is, that in my line of work(banking) I need something secure because I have a lot of sensitive information on my device and am always looking for a more secure alternative. If Blackberry goes all android based, I'm out,completely.and will go back to a dumb phone. I just don't trust Apple or Google to keep my data secure enough.
Posted via CB10
Posted via CB1009-02-15 08:18 AMLike 0 - Yes, my device is BES managed as stated above.
If I was dealing with ball joints and gas tank caps, I wouldn't be so concerned about privacy and security.
Lets face it, there are things out there that require higher security than others.
I doubt that where Ford, Chevy or Dodge gets their valve-stem caps are what you would consider "sensitive".
If someone absconded with that info, it probably wouldn't affect much, other than someone being able to buy bulk valve stem caps and create a shortage for the automotive industry.
I don't compare apples to gas tank caps my friend.
( IE nonpublic personal information vs where chevy buys tires from)
The auto industry using a device because its "secure" isn't exactly the endorsement i'm looking for, nor is it the same product that I am trying to secure from prying eyes.
the security of my customers info is paramount and always will be.
I don't give in to the "illusion" of security. Nor do I trust Android "open system" or Apple's "proprietary system" because everyone and their mother has them, so who do you think the "hackers" are going to go after first, the few people who use a super-secure device like blackberry, or a multitude of consumers using devices that are much more easily accessed for them to take info off of. (a few big accounts from Blackberry, or a LOT of smaller accounts IOS and Android?)
Money is in the numbers09-02-15 01:50 PMLike 0 - Assuming I would order an iPhone or Android in an online store (or buy it in a shop), how can I be 100% sure as a consumer that the phone has never been jailbroken/rooted? How can I be sure that there isn't any spyware pre-installed?
For BB 10 I just have peace of mind that the OS and the apps cannot have been modified when I go through the activation process.
And for Android, we had recently more than enough embarassing security flaws in the news.
That's just not the right OS for me, never was.09-02-15 02:41 PMLike 0 - You are always saying the same thing and you are wrong.
How BlackBerry Security Begins At The Endpoints | Inside BlackBerry for Business Blog
But that's a tiny fraction of what it means to be "secure", and one of the few differences between BB10 and iOS or Android. The vast majority of what people do with their phones is functionally identical on all three platforms - network security in particular.09-02-15 06:21 PMLike 0 -
We know that the NSA is doing these things and we also know that some Android devices from China have occasionally spyware preinstalled.
Chinese Android Smartphone comes with Pre-installed Spyware
26 Android Phone Models Shipped with Pre-Installed Spyware
With BB 10 I can trust the full OS and its apps from day 0, plain simple.
When I see the potential for failure, I am confident it will happen sooner or later, so most Android devices are normally not for me.09-03-15 08:51 AMLike 0
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