- CrackBerry Genius
12-05-12, 06:32 PM #76
- 1,578 Posts
I think the point texazzpete and pythons are trying to make is that Skype is clearly popular enough to have consistently stayed in top 20 apps in iOS/Android. I don't think the exact count of unique users hardly matters here. That's just nitpicking. If it's one of the top-downloaded apps, then clearly, RIM should be looking at as an essential app and RIM should try to get it on BB 10 ASAP (maybe they already have, who knows). Whether or not people use Skype app after downloading is a different story altogether. But the users at least perceive this app to be essential and surely not having this app in BlackBerry would be disadvantageous. Perceptions matter as much as reality here.
- CrackBerry User
12-05-12, 07:19 PM #77
- 80 Posts
- yeah right
- CrackBerry Genius
12-05-12, 07:45 PM #79
- 1,578 Posts
I think we - most of BB users - tend to choose function over form, practicality over flaunt. And that's why we have stuck with BlackBerry. But clearly a lot (non-trivial number) of potential customers also value style and pomp. These apps (Skype, NetFlix etc) may or may not be practical. They may or may not even be used after being downloaded. But these apps are being perceived as essential. Users can decide whether or not they want to watch NetFlix on a 4 inch screen. That's their decision. But they want that option to be available to them. Specially, when it's available on other competing platforms and has been available for a while now!
By the way, nothing wrong with users being interested in "wow'ing their friends". If only a small number of people were interested in features or apps that wow, then it might be okay to ignore those features. Can't cater to everyone. But if a LOT of users are interested in those kind of apps and features. Then it shouldn't be ignored.
- CrackBerry Master
12-05-12, 09:49 PM #80
- 1,352 Posts
...If what you are saying held water "Liquid Graphics" should have been a real barn burner for RIM - it should have increased market share instead of loosing it.
...Like I said previously - you, me and belfast love Blackberry - so RIM should care less what we think and CONSENTRATE on what everyone who left them thinks!
...I'm saying I know a ton of people in my own company who have told me WHY.
People simply got tired of NOT being able to use the popular apps IOS and DROID and WP have no problem using.....
...What are the two apps that those three devices have ZERO problems using????As of 2.20.2015 I'm packing a Blackberry Classic - so far so good!
- CrackBerry Genius of Geniuses
12-06-12, 01:28 AM #81
- 14,368 Posts
OK, if Neflix and Skype are sooooo important, why aren't windows phones selling? Why the old BBOS devices STILL sell better then WP7&8? How do you explain that?
I'm all for them being there but it's simply not as important as you might think.
- 12-06-12, 05:32 AM #82
BBOS sales improvement came from mainly Asia-Pacific/Middle East/African markets where these services are less widely used...and where BBM is a must-have.
I do not think BBOS7 sales will outstrip WP8 sales. As soon as the just-announced Lumia 620 WP8 device hits the Asian market for $249, Nokia will likely pull ahead.
Now let me reverse this on you.
You're fond of touting the benefits of security of the BB OS. Do we now say you're misled and security isn't important because iOS and Android have been outselling BBOS by very very large margins?
- 12-06-12, 08:08 AM #84
Nobody's claiming that if BB10 has Netflix and Skype, it can otherwise suck and still be successful. To take one example, look at the inability of the PB browser to organize bookmarks. This is basic browser functionality these days and if BB10 shares this shortcoming (Maybe we already know the answer to this), that's going to be a problem, even if all the high-demand apps are present. If gmail calendar, contact, and folder sync don't work better on BB10 than they do on BBOS, that's a big problem, regardless of how many apps there are. Since the PB already handles Google stuff well, I don't foresee a problem; just making a point.
And that point is the same one that everybody has been making for months. BB10 needs to launch in a very polished, "complete" state, with the kind of functionality people expect from a BlackBerry and the kind of apps they expect from an Android or iOS device. If it doesn't, it will get a similar reception to what WP has had: Interesting but "immature." MS can afford a long childhood for WP; I don't think RIM can afford it for BB10.
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