- 01-16-13, 09:41 AM #101
- 01-16-13, 09:47 AM #102
A lot of them are very VERY high level / abstract to a total Discussion Forum newbie. They won't help newbies avoid 'errors' that will possibly raise the ire of less patient old-timers.
The "Infractions" one says that there is a table of points, below. There's no table. So... um... review and update?
And, having to search to find the "how to search" information is, well... um... do I have to say what it is?
When you hit "forums.crackberry.com" when not logged in I see "register today", then a big "search" box, and a big "find device" box. Super.
Maybe what is needed to be added prior to the influx of BB / BB10 / Discussion Forum newbies is a big
"New to Discussion Forums? Click Here"
Button, with a nice INTRODUCTORY getting started basic rules (not in legalese and not written as a stern matronly grade 1 teacher would speak) and then you are getting newbies off to a good start. Now, they can just "whatever...!" and skip past it and THEN... they deserve what they get?
The above is a suggestion to address the reality that the release of BB10 devices will bring a lot of new BB users, and a lot of new "Discussion Forum" users.
I expect to make a lot of mistakes myself as the types of technical issues relevant to BBOS<8 devices will be perpendicular to those of BB10 devices, so I apologize in advance for my mistakes.
- 01-16-13, 10:17 AM #105
@lorax1284 - I agree, but the majority of the info is there. I know CB has a redesign in the works for the BB10 release, hopefully they take some of your (and others') suggestions and run with it.
- 01-16-13, 11:56 AM #108
NP just means reviving a dead post. I don't condone the treatment you received when you posted (well, I haven't seen the thread tbh), and was not trying to justify any rude or obnoxious behavior. Just playing devil's advocate.
- 01-16-13, 12:04 PM #109
I find that it's a matter of testing the waters with care AND plenty of common sense.
If what you get is "n00b, there's already plenty of posts about this", then there are 2 possibilities and 1 confirmed fact:
*You just met the forum's meanest son of a gun. Yeah, every forum has the guy with rough edges and condescending attitude (which ironically is the reason they managed to stay: it's their trademark), who will troll just about everybody for the exact reason of because.
*You just hit the sensitive question
*You just asked a question just about everybody else had, and you managed to not do reasonable research about it, exposing either lapse of mind or laziness in the process.
It's a matter of common sense, and really had nothing to do with respect or stuff. I find that if a question had been asked too many times, a question had been asked too many times, and no amount of newb-ness is going to change that. Being nice is good, but being rude cannot be considered wrong 100%.
Virtually nobody will be rude if the question holds merit and is not a question that summons its twin every 5 minutes.
- 01-16-13, 01:57 PM #110
I will just throw in the fact that the forum search is not all that great (like all forum searches). One is really better off searching Google; which often leads back to relevant CrackBerry threads.
- 01-16-13, 03:11 PM #111
"na zis" ?? With all due respect I take extreme offence to such a term being used, it has no place on Crackberry.com or any respectful forum. IMO this is a very bad precedent to set for these forums, also some of these posts are picked up by google for others to see , not cool at all. Please edit your post and remove the extremely offending word.
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- 01-16-13, 03:24 PM #112
- 01-16-13, 05:03 PM #113
- 01-16-13, 05:15 PM #114
This thread has got me thinking in that it raises a valid point. Many of us can get snappy. Myself included. In truth, we've also had to put up with a lot of crap from trolls, press etc for a long time telling us we're 'full of crap for liking a BlackBerry product." It has made people extra sensitive I suppose. A little thicker skin is warranted as not everyone is a troll and many concerns raised are valid as raised concerns
- 01-16-13, 05:59 PM #116
The use does not in any way diminish the horror some of my relatives experienced, nor insult those of German decent. If you'd like to discuss it further, I'd recommend PMing me.
Now, back on topic.....
- 01-16-13, 08:58 PM #118
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I would suggest you do the same. I personally think this forum is FULL of biased and pompous members that drag you to **** for asking something you don't fully understand or like I saw the other day, when a member got told off for making an Apple joke. It was a joke for crying out loud(and a pretty lame/harmless one at that). This kind of thing doesn't affect how you perceive the brand but it will certainly make newbies look for another place. The difference is that I'm not intimidated by words, posts or mods and I will have a field day telling people to take several seats.
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Re: Aggression on crackberry putting off potential new blackberry users
I have made snappy comments and also had snappy comments made to me. its the internet and it doesn't bother me to the point of getting emotional. take the good with you and brush off the bad
edit: I do want to say that hate or abusive responses that are unreasonable should never be tolorated and I support the ban of such ones
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Aggression on crackberry putting off potential new blackberry users
Honestly, the abrasive people have been the "plants". You know, the social media people who are paid to comment on sites. Generally, they claim to be an afficionado, and then tear the product/candidate down.
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- 01-17-13, 12:58 AM #124
- 01-17-13, 01:35 AM #125
Problem is trolls never think they are trolls. I admit I'm a huge BB/RIM 'fanboy'.
Best question ever, 'why are you here?'. I never ask it for me, I ask it for them. If they truly have the opinion BB/RIM sucks so much and have nothing useful to say they should use their time more wisely cause its a waste of everyones time if they are posting here.
I'd argue the hostilty at BB fans here is worse and perplexingly odd considering what I assume who this site is intended for. Check ou my sig for an example.
BB10 is going to ROCK!
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