- It means 80,000,000 BlackBerry devices are paying RIM a monthly fee to use the BlackBerry services. This fee is every month, even on years old handsets if they want to continue to have BlackBerry services. The fee is collected by the carriers in the form of your BIS or BES service and a portion of it is sent to RIM.nneal likes this.10-02-12 10:16 AMLike 1
- It means 80,000,000 BlackBerry devices are paying RIM a monthly fee to use the BlackBerry services. This fee is every month, even on years old handsets if they want to continue to have BlackBerry services. The fee is collected by the carriers in the form of your BIS or BES service and a portion of it is sent to RIM.
Sounds good...It has the advantage of fee coming from 80 million users and it is adding users by million/s per quarter. Does it mean that RIM is loosing money on the device itself? then why is BB is in the red?
Sent from my 9900 using Tapatalk10-02-12 10:44 AMLike 0 - They are making virtually nothing on the majority of handsets they are selling. Their increases are mostly coming from emerging markets where the phones are sold almost at cost.
The BIS service revenue is not nearly enough to cover operating costs, so if RIM is not in the red already, they will be withou additional income. Carriers also dislike BIS and I'd be surprised if you saw it continue on BB10 devices.10-02-12 10:59 AMLike 0 - They are making virtually nothing on the majority of handsets they are selling. Their increases are mostly coming from emerging markets where the phones are sold almost at cost.
The BIS service revenue is not nearly enough to cover operating costs, so if RIM is not in the red already, they will be withou additional income. Carriers also dislike BIS and I'd be surprised if you saw it continue on BB10 devices.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 210-02-12 11:03 AMLike 0 -
Are you saying that, for example, a 9900 costs +/- 500� to be made?
For what i know, an Iphone costs 150� to be made and it's sold as you know...
If that's the case, them RIM should try to get new manufacturers...10-02-12 11:05 AMLike 0 -
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The Playbook will have BBM without BIS, so it's definitely not needed for that. I think BIS is dead in its current incarnation (the carrier NOC). But that said. I think they can provide a few of the more important services without the BIS NOC.10-02-12 02:31 PMLike 0 -
* I made up the percentages but RIM's own financial tells us that they aren't making any money on hardware however it shakes out.10-02-12 02:41 PMLike 0 - I had thought about the PlayBook, and have loaded BB10 and BBM on mine, but I think that loophole will be closed and a subscription required in the future.10-03-12 07:18 AMLike 0
- There is no loophole though. The NOC is carrier specific, and the Playbook has no carrier tied to it. The Playbook doesn't use the NOC which means that RIM has separate servers set up for it to access. It's could easily be accomplished on phones and tablets using a proxy.10-03-12 08:05 AMLike 0
- There is no loophole though. The NOC is carrier specific, and the Playbook has no carrier tied to it. The Playbook doesn't use the NOC which means that RIM has separate servers set up for it to access. It's could easily be accomplished on phones and tablets using a proxy.10-03-12 11:39 AMLike 0
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