6 Months to live! - BBC article
- Unless something better comes along, six months from now, I'll still be using my Z10. @OP, expect to see more of the same type of articles until something actually happens and a decision is made based on BlackBerries latest announcement.09-03-13 11:15 PMLike 0
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1)"most people don't even know bb10 exists" is a generalized statement that I would love to see some real market research data for. Otherwise it would be better if you said something in the line of "It is my impression,...."
2)"Deluded to think things are fine and dandy"? Seriously? I believe that you have been reading around the forums lately no? Who said things are fine and dandy? I actually believe that the vast majority of people in these forums do realize and express that things are far from "fine and dandy".
This is one thing; another thing is for some people to ask BB enthusiasts or happy BB product consumers to write the obituary of BB every single day for the past 3 years, predicting a 6 months tops life span. Those things are different.
So please next time you want to call people delusional and generalize, I would suggest you realize that while you call people "deluded" based on your personal perception, be conscious that the fact that you have a personal perception that you convert and elevate to general "reality" diluted by adding up a great quantity of personal bias and lack of back up evidence, makes your post not much more than an unsubstantiated insult to some.
and for the record I will clarify *MY* opinion is that of course BB is in a tough spot but I think they might just make it. On the other hand, on the absence of any crystal ball to foresee the future -unlike many public media "analysts"- I prefer to take a "wait and see" approach. Meanwhile, my BB10 phone is a joy and a very dependable phone to have for both professional and personal use and I intend to enjoy the &*(# out of it.
Cheers.Last edited by currentodysseys; 09-04-13 at 01:26 AM.
09-03-13 11:54 PMLike 0 -
- To the OP
You might as well explain please how the MS - Nokia deal article equals BB will be dead in 6 months once we are at it on about the 80th post on this thread .
Thanks for the thread and welcome to the forums!09-04-13 12:14 AMLike 0 -
Posted from my Z10 with CB1009-04-13 02:00 AMLike 0 -
Her doctor from Germany (Doc Thor)tries to keep her healthiness alive, but his assistant from France (proctolgist Boulben) and his greedy stepdaugher (Alicia) are not really involved... They are just too cowardly to press this good old lady a pillow overher face while she sleeps, but the knwon heritage seems to be a temptation...
So this lovely bluehaired lady walkes every day to her groccer and vegetated to oneself and swallows all the pills which are decreed by doc Thor... The neighbours are interested in her sizeable fortune and her lovely garden, but beside this they bid the time of the day friendly...
She wont die cause of the therapy of doc Thor, but its a question of time when this elderly Lady will fall into a hypoglycaemic coma... Boulben and her stepdaugher (there are bizarr rumours about her real relationship!) are already wearing black, but in the moment too many witnesses present to go ahead with the pillow-shtick...
qwerty4ever and ljfong like this.09-04-13 02:08 AMLike 2 -
- Here are the English dictionary meaning of "DELUDE"--v--luded 1. To deceive the mind or judgement of; mislead. 2. Obsolete. To elude or evade. 3. Obsolete. To frustrate the hopes or plans of. -See Synonyms at ...deceive.
Who do you think is likely to be deluded (a) some who is in the "dark" because they have never had the BB10 experience and don't have friends who own BB10 phones or (b) someone who is rocking a BB10 phone and very enlightened, plus has plenty friends that do have BB10 phones?
Finally, what would someone who thinks that they are not deluded and thinks most folks on this forum are deluded, be looking for on this forum, eh? Seriously, someone needs "soul searching". As my beloved BlackBerry would say "KEEP MOVING"!!
09-04-13 10:07 AMLike 0 - Not to give BBC any credit or cause some havoc in here, but seeing as BlackBerry have put themselves up for any possible outcome, 6 to 12 months isn't far fetched at all. Who knows what we can see in 6 months time. 6 months ago, I wasn't expecting BlackBerry to put themselves up at all, not 7 months after launching BB10, anyway.09-04-13 11:10 AMLike 0
- Here are the English dictionary meaning of "DELUDE"--v--luded 1. To deceive the mind or judgement of; mislead. 2. Obsolete. To elude or evade. 3. Obsolete. To frustrate the hopes or plans of. -See Synonyms at ...deceive.
Who do you think is likely to be deluded (a) some who is in the "dark" because they have never had the BB10 experience and don't have friends who own BB10 phones or (b) someone who is rocking a BB10 phone and very enlightened, plus has plenty friends that do have BB10 phones?
Finally, what would someone who thinks that they are not deluded and thinks most folks on this forum are deluded, be looking for on this forum, eh? Seriously, someone needs "soul searching". As my beloved BlackBerry would say "KEEP MOVING"!!devin266 likes this.09-04-13 11:14 AMLike 1 - ROFLMAO This should be the graphic used in the television advertisements for BlackBerry 10. Just the humour factor would grab people's attention and get them talking, in a positive way, about BlackBerry smartphones.09-04-13 11:19 AMLike 0
- sony has been losing Billions on its consoles since the ps2. they are still here, their phone division has taken so many hits you'd think they were a target but yet still make phones. Im not worried. BB will pull out of this one.. they always bounce back. And to the guy with the old lady story, my nan would kick your ****. for shame to use old people in an analogy like that.09-04-13 03:46 PMLike 0
- Tell Em Reeneebob,it ain't over until your BlackBerry no longer is being supported. God bless your mom. If this story is true, then get someone else to run the company that knows what they are doing. BlackBerry 10 is still the best phone OS out there and will only get better.
Posted via CB1009-04-13 04:52 PMLike 0 - Seriously, this is one of the funniest stuffs I have read today.
In my opinion BlackBerry is an elderly Lady (surely nice and neat, but a little bit weird and exhausting) which is a nursing case. She drivels and she is incontinent and she forgot a lot during a day. She tries to do her shopping by herself and she recognize her badger after some seconds. Everybody likes her cause of her cute appearance and all the old storys (good ol�times) she repeated every day...
Her doctor from Germany (Doc Thor)tries to keep her healthiness alive, but his assistant from France (proctolgist Boulben) and his greedy stepdaugher (Alicia) are not really involved... They are just too cowardly to press this good old lady a pillow overher face while she sleeps, but the knwon heritage seems to be a temptation...
So this lovely bluehaired lady walkes every day to her groccer and vegetated to oneself and swallows all the pills which are decreed by doc Thor... The neighbours are interested in her sizeable fortune and her lovely garden, but beside this they bid the time of the day friendly...
She wont die cause of the therapy of doc Thor, but its a question of time when this elderly Lady will fall into a hypoglycaemic coma... Boulben and her stepdaugher (there are bizarr rumours about her real relationship!) are already wearing black, but in the moment too many witnesses present to go ahead with the pillow-shtick...
Stwutter likes this.09-04-13 05:43 PMLike 1 - No it's a good analogy...my mother had the same biliary duct liver disease that killed Walter Payton. I came home from school one day in grade 9 to be told that she had no more than a year and no less than 6 months to live. I watched her go down to 88lbs and bright yellow with cirrhosis (all while I raised my baby brother and sister while dad worked, and worked 2 jobs to help pay the bills at home).
One day, her liver count in a regular blood panel went from outrageously high to normal. They admitted her because it had never happened before (and the doctor wrote a paper because the disease is almost always fatal even with a transplant) and he couldn't believe it.
This was in 1990. She's still alive today (mind you she now has a tumour on her pituitary due to medications she was in for a prolonged period of time so there's still health issues happening)...but it's been far longer than a year.
I think the analogy fits perfectly. I won't believe BB is done until they announce it.
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Holy crap, when did I pass 5000 posts?!
Having said all of that, did he change his life...yes, a medical professional (and highly regarded), he closed up his practice immediately, and went on his first extended vacation to all his time with his family. He made all the arrangements he could for himself, and them. He accepted it, and acknowledged it. It was being prudent, and wise.
The analogy is highly flawed....BB isn't a person to whom we should not talk about their situation, lest we hurt their feelings, depress them, or be seen as inconsiderate. It is a huge soulless corporation. Employees? You can bet your bottom dollar they're talking about it, and planning. You can certainly bet Heins and co. at the top have.
Yes, you could argue that it will hurt fanboys feelings if we talk about it openly and thus, we should not acknowledge it on the forum until it happens - that would be a nice consideration to them - but not one people need feel obligated to oblige by, and yes, because it's a freakin corporation, it's pretty silly. I wonder if those same fans would refuse to talk about the possible woes of Apple or another company - doesn't seem like it. Imagine if Apple's business dropped off a cliff to a tiny, tiny fraction of what they were, and Tim Cook had to announce they were looking for buyers....would those same fanboys say "no, no....it's not over, and nobody should say that.....it's like telling my Dad he's dying!"
Again, I understand the personification of BB for fanboys (animism is alive and well!), but I think such people need to "get a grip".reeneebob likes this.09-04-13 06:50 PMLike 1 - ... Didn't Rodney Dangerfield's doctor give him 6 Months to live? He said he couldn't pay the huge doctor bill in that time, so the doctor extended his life 2 more years....09-04-13 09:54 PMLike 0
- That's great. I had a relative (who just died a few weeks ago of something else). He was diagnosed with 6 months to live....advanced cancer, started from prostate - moved into bones and throughout body. He lived another 17 years and was cancer-free....a miracle remission.
Having said all of that, did he change his life...yes, a medical professional (and highly regarded), he closed up his practice immediately, and went on his first extended vacation to all his time with his family. He made all the arrangements he could for himself, and them. He accepted it, and acknowledged it. It was being prudent, and wise.
The analogy is highly flawed....BB isn't a person to whom we should not talk about their situation, lest we hurt their feelings, depress them, or be seen as inconsiderate. It is a huge soulless corporation. Employees? You can bet your bottom dollar they're talking about it, and planning. You can certainly bet Heins and co. at the top have.
Yes, you could argue that it will hurt fanboys feelings if we talk about it openly and thus, we should not acknowledge it on the forum until it happens - that would be a nice consideration to them - but not one people need feel obligated to oblige by, and yes, because it's a freakin corporation, it's pretty silly. I wonder if those same fans would refuse to talk about the possible woes of Apple or another company - doesn't seem like it. Imagine if Apple's business dropped off a cliff to a tiny, tiny fraction of what they were, and Tim Cook had to announce they were looking for buyers....would those same fanboys say "no, no....it's not over, and nobody should say that.....it's like telling my Dad he's dying!"
Again, I understand the personification of BB for fanboys (animism is alive and well!), but I think such people need to "get a grip".
I find it tiring to just keep receiving the "BB is dead" comment without a serious enlightening and data based argumentation.
Even at this point where they say that by november they will "close the matter" of "strategic alternatives", even with the data that is coming out, we cannot be sure of how the services and products of what BB is are going to be used and transform into (because if someone buys they buy to invest, not to close down... in most cases anyway...).
So for those that think that the fact of BB being sold (or however this will play out) will mean that "nothing of what comprises BB will stand alive afterwards" are clearly not really getting the picture. Maybe the name will go away... maybe no devices with a BlackBerry logo will be around, maybe they will, we do not know yet. What is only reasonable to suggest is, that if someone puts their milion - bilion USD into the company, they do that as an investment of some sort. So some legacy of BB will still be out there no matter how it will transform.
Just my 2 cents.09-05-13 11:25 AMLike 0 - And? Lol!! But ironically, at least there is still one person in England that still knows that BB10 exists and its YOU!! Haha. Can you now see how absurd your statement is? Maybe your friends are in the dark about BB10's existence but please don't generalize. Most of my friends who reside in England own the new BB10s. So am I to conclude from my observation that BlackBerry is doing brisk business in England?
To each their own; my "Lil Z-darling (Z10)" rocks and I'm loving it more each day.
So know you've seen it for yourself, Blackberry want to sell the business by November. Do you still think they're selling like hotcakes at a hungry fat camp ?09-05-13 03:05 PMLike 0
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