The proper method for upgrading

[joshtbuff]

how does the computer and DM know which OS to load onto the BB? I have multiple OS on my computer. How does it know which one to use?

[bmcclure937]

Originally Posted by joshtbuff

how does the computer and DM know which OS to load onto the BB? I have multiple OS on my computer. How does it know which one to use?

Originally Posted by bmcclure937

This has been detailed a number of times, but here goes :

1) Backup you device with desktop manager
2) Backup your third party applications (http://forums.crackberry.com/f52/upd...rograms-46800/)
3) Download the desired device OS (from whatever your source may be)
4) Install the OS to your PC
5) Remove all old OSes! Delete the vendor.xml file
6) Wipe your handheld (JL_cmdr or from device)
7) Optimize the OS to your liking by editing .alx files or editing the Java folder (http://forums.crackberry.com/f3/how-...-memory-34633/)
8) Load the OS with AppLoader (through DesktopManager)
9) Restore Third Party Apps
10) Restore from Backup in Step 1

I will add links to other threads for some steps...

That is addressed in my initial response

[evrydayzawrkday]

Wipe before you install.... I do it all the time and afterwards I get more memory, and there's less garbage on the handheld

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

[ncbuckeye]

6 of one half dozen of the other. I wiped it this lat time because i was having trouble with mms. Don't think I will bother doing it next time.

[smiliey]

how do you remove the vender.xml files and when you say remove all OS's do you mean the .exe files? and if not how do i uninstall the old OS's through what ever (DM or yea..) thanks in advanced

[smiliey]

so yea.. im searched for it and i found it.. /= shoulda done that first. im installing now thanks though.

what is that file anyways?

[bmcclure937]

Originally Posted by bmcclure937

This has been detailed a number of times, but here goes :

1) Backup you device with desktop manager
2) Backup your third party applications (http://forums.crackberry.com/f52/upd...rograms-46800/)
3) Download the desired device OS (from whatever your source may be)
(make sure the OS is for your specific device!)
4) Install the OS to your PC (run the .exe file)
5) Remove all old OSes! (Go to Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs and Uninstall Prior OS versions!)
6) Delete the vendor.xml file (C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader)
7) Wipe your handheld (JL_cmdr or from device)
(Options > Security Options > General Settings > Menu > Wipe Handheld)
JL_Cmder Javaloader Utility8) Optimize the OS to your liking by editing .alx files or editing the Java folder (http://forums.crackberry.com/f3/how-...-memory-34633/)
9) Load the OS with AppLoader (through DesktopManager)
10) Restore Third Party Apps
11) Restore from Backup in Step 1

Please note, for clarification I have edited my original post (#4) on this thread!

I made most of the changes in bold, added some links, etc

Please note : There are many variations to this install process and some steps are not necessary. Specifically, steps 2 and 10 for third party apps

[smiliey]

im money now, thanks dood

[dxh]

You should add notes to this 'process' about all the waits you have to do like waiting for the hourglass for 10-30 mins after the OS install while DM says 'connecting', how you will get a 507 usually after wiping...etc.

Those things are sort of confusing to newbies who might think they hosed their BB.

[j0hnnyv]

Just followed this whole procedure. I had been running .52 since it came out with no problems at all....but it was probably my 10th beta OS upgrade and I never have wiped my device before.

So I backed up everything did a wipe and reloaded 4.5 and then restored my 3rd party apps and everything else and it worked like a champ. I had 24mb free after this before I restored all my msgs and everything and now Im at 18.2mb, lol. Thats after optimizing everything I could.

Great guide here, I appreciate it.

[bettyn100]

Trying to do the 4.5.0.51 8330 beta and DM will NOT recognize it. I have done everything I know to do plus what has been said here and still a no go.

It's listed in the DM help - about - device software but it won't allow app loader to pick it up and load to the phone. Yes, I have deleted the vendor xml file. I've uninstalled and reinstalled both numerous times......I'm at a complete loss of ideas.

I had it loaded yesterday but had mms issues and reverted back to the original OS. But then found out it was Alltel having mms issues. I want my beta back!

[j0hnnyv]

Ok uninstall the original OS installed on your PC. so make sure the 4.5.0.51 is the only OS installed on your PC. Delete vendor.XML, load desktop manager and it should automatically popup and try to load 4.5. If it doesnt load apploader and it should work........no reason why it wont.

[bettyn100]

Originally Posted by j0hnnyv

Ok uninstall the original OS installed on your PC. so make sure the 4.5.0.51 is the only OS installed on your PC. Delete vendor.XML, load desktop manager and it should automatically popup and try to load 4.5. If it doesnt load apploader and it should work........no reason why it wont.

Absolutely nothing.

It still shows in the about section of DM but won't load. App loader says "The blackberry destop software does not have blackberry device software for the device that you have connected to the computer."

I know I have the right one because it's the same one I installed yesterday.

8330CDMA_PBv_4.5.0_rel74_PL3.2.0.41_A4.5.0.51

[bmcclure937]

Originally Posted by bettyn100

Absolutely nothing.

It still shows in the about section of DM but won't load. App loader says "The blackberry destop software does not have blackberry device software for the device that you have connected to the computer."

I know I have the right one because it's the same one I installed yesterday.

8330CDMA_PBv_4.5.0_rel74_PL3.2.0.41_A4.5.0.51

To make sure I totally understand what is going on...

1) You upgraded to the 4.5 Beta for your device
2) You downgraded because of 'issues'
3) Now you want to upgrade, but cannot...

Have you followed all of the steps I detail? Because following that will ensure a clean install. Uninstall all of the BlackBerry OSes, including the one you want to install... then re-install the one you want onto your PC. You have to remove the vendor.xml each time you install any OS, etc...

Wipe your handheld as well, etc.

[gbdog]

I always restart my comp. between uninstall and reinstall of the OS's, even tho it doesnt say to, just to make shure of no leftover..Umm I luv leftovers