What is the difference between text messages and data?

[TwinsX2Dad]

Originally Posted by vatothe0

So now you're saying it only cost Verizon $1100 once to operate all their SMS messages forever? Or even a year?

If it costs nothing to transmit and deliver a message, why would verizon attempt to disable delivery notification? Your position is that it cost them nothing so what would motivate them to do that?

Until you actually learn some reading comprehension, let me spell it out to you this way.

Open your car's glove box.

See the empty space in there?

Now wad up a piece of paper & stuff it in that empty space.

Drive around for a week.

Did it cost you anything?

Now onto your new shuck & jive with the delivery notification.

How many people call into support asking why some messages show a notification & some don't? How much time is spent explaining to customers the difference between in-network & out of network behavior? What's the latest VZW estimate on average cost per support call? Is it about $8 or has it hit $10 yet?

Get rid of it, six months later, no more calls. Now you can see where the cost savings comes in.

Now, go learn some telecom engineering. Oh wait - to do that, you must first know how to read & understand logic. I know that logic escapes you, but you might make an effort to grasp it.

And yet again - tsguy proves that no matter how bleak it seems, some intelligent life does exist in the ether.

[vatothe0]

So now you're back to saying it's zero cost. Whereas here...

Originally Posted by TwinsX2Dad

But anyone who tries to make an argument that SMS costs anything - and I would even forgive a high estimate of five cents per line per year - doesn't know telecom or how it works.

you said it cost Verizon up to 5 cents per line per year which would be about 4 million dollars.

It's hard to track which version of your own story you're asserting as fact.

So if you are saying the cost is zero then that's fine. I can assure you it isn't.

[TwinsX2Dad]

Originally Posted by vatothe0

.you said it cost Verizon up to 5 cents per line per year which would be about 4 million dollars.

You sir, are a liar. What I said...

Originally Posted by TwinsX2Dad

But anyone who tries to make an argument that SMS costs anything - and I would even forgive a high estimate of five cents per line per year - doesn't know telecom or how it works.

Typical tactic of someone trying to argue something they are over their head on - to twist & intentionally misinterpret their opposition.

I said I would FORGIVE an estimate - be it from you or anyone else. I never once said it would cost that. I would forgive that because again, it would be statistically irrelevant.

But let's take your flawed assumption for a moment. We'll add together your misinterpreted $4 million/year & add in my high estimate for programming. We now have $4,001,100. Now let's say less than 20% of VZW customers have a $20 testing plan for a year. To make it easy, let's just call it 15 million $20 texting packages. In a year, that is $3.6 billion. The cost is still .001% of revenue. 1/1000th of a percent.

Let's see - you're a rep, right? As such, ouve probably never seen a line of code, climbed a tower or been on the provisioning end of a switch, much less touched a switch. You're fed what low-level managers want you to know & you swallow it hook, line & sinker.

You go back to pushing flip phones & I will continue to help build & provision networks. And while you're there being trated like a mushroom, learn to not twist the words of others - your desperate attempts to do so with what I write are blindingly obvious.

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[tsguy52]

The cost is basically no cost at all, because there is hardly anything to maintain. Everything is there in place and ready to go.

How often are outages ever related to SMS?

Now - how many data outages are there? Or what about voice issues? Nothing like getting a disconnect error when calling your landline!

With SMS you don't have to worry about a lot of things - most cases it just works. And in any event that it is not working, then it can be fixed fairly quickly with a few clicks (99% of the time).

Voice/Data cost the company so much more to manage when compared to SMS. SMS is a drop in the bucket - and I think that is the point TwinsX2Dad is trying to make here.