Bluetooth Sync with computer?

[shadowsports]

Please see my prev post #20.

Just wanted to check back and see if anyone has had luck syncing over bluetooth on a Vista OS?

[Z06PSI]

No luck with XP at all. I can pair but then cannot connect but for 3 seconds then it says terminated. It is trusted and all is setup up for what I have found so far. I can do voice gateway and send pictures through it. Just cannot get the desktop manager to connect let alone sync.

[avatar78]

Just wanted to post how I got it to work finally. I used the super-helpful instructions I'm reposting here, sorry I can't post links yet. It was on blackberryforums dot pinstack dot com. I used a Cirago BTA-3210 dongle from Newegg. I'm sure that's not the only dongle that will work, but it's what worked for me.

I added the PnPId to the bth.inf file just like he described. Just plug the file name %windir%\inf\bth.inf into the search on the start button menu to find it. Add your string, and save the file.

Once I was at the point where I plugged in the dongle again, I went into its properties and clicked update driver, and just had XP search, no specific location. After a few minutes, 4 showed up. I used the first one, which I believe said something about generic, but wasn't actually from Microsoft. It wasn't one of the driver-signed ones that looked more tempting. After that, it was smooth as silk, and I just used the BB tutorial at the beginning of this thread. I hope this helps someone who's pulling their hair out like I was this week.


Default Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bulz_Eye_

There absolutely is a way to make any bluetooth dongle compatible with the microsoft bluetooth stack.

I spent a day shopping for bluetooth dongles, none of which were compatible. Then i found that almost all work with the micrsoft stack. stupid WHQL cerficiation is the only thing preventing them.

i cant post links but here it is:

Using the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack (instead of WIDCOMM) on Windows XP w/ SP2

I recently purchased a , and wanted to use it on my laptop to connect to Motorola V600 cell phone and dial up to the internet. I remember reading that the newly released Service Pack 2 for (stack) built in.
This means that all you should be able to plug in your USB Bluetooth adapter, a Bluetooth icon should appear in the control panel, and you should be on your way! Well, that would be nice, but after some research I found that the xpsp2 Bluetooth support was only for adapters that had WHQL certified drivers. According to Microsoft, only a were supported by the built in Windows XP (WHQL) driver.
The drivers that came with my Kensington adapter were WIDCOMM drivers.
Unfortunately these drivers are not WHQL certified, and cannot use the XP(sp2) built in Bluetooth stack. You must instead install the WIDCOMM Bluetooth stack, which seemed to work ok for me, but if Windows has this built in, why not use it?
Besides, I hate installing extra software that I don't need!
So I got started looking for a WHQL certified driver for the Kensington adapter. Well, to make this short, they don't exist (not that I could find at least). I did find newer WIDCOMM drivers though on Logitech's website, but they were still not WHQL certified, and therefore can not use the XP Bluetooth stack.
After going back and reading the list of Bluetooth adapters support by XP, I noticed the PnPID's listed next to each device. So I figured, why not just add the Kensington PnPID to the built in drivers inf file, and see if the built in drivers will work?
After locating the proper inf file: %windir%\inf\bth.inf
I opened it in notepad, read through it a little bit, and saw that there wasn't anything specific for each of the different manufactures devices. So on about line 60, under one of the device sections, I added my USB adapters PnPID like so:

;----------------------- Device section - Start -----------------------

[ALPS.NT.5.1]
ALPS Integrated Bluetooth Device= BthUsb, USB\Vid_044e&Pid_3005
Alps Bluetooth USB Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_044e&Pid_3006

[Belkin.NT.5.1]
Belkin Bluetooth Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_050d&Pid_0081
Belkin Bluetooth Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_050d&Pid_0084
Kensington USB Bluetooth Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_0db0&Pid_697a



Now, you may ask, well how did I know my adapters PnPID?
Well, I pulled mine out of the registry, but there is a much easier way!

After inserting the Bluetooth adapter into one of the computers USB ports, Windows will ask to install drivers for it, and it won’t be able to find any drivers for the device, and it will simply add the adapter to device manager as "USB Device" with a small yellow exclamation point under it. Well if you go into the device manager, double-click on the "USB Device" and look at the details tab, you will notice that in the drop down menu, there is an option called "Hardware Ids". Select this option, and in the area below will appear that devices Hardware (or PnPID) Ids. You need to copy one of those strings EXACTLY from that area, into the bth.inf file.
After that, delete the "USB Device" from device manager, and un-plug, and re-plug the Bluetooth adapter into your computer system. When prompted, let Windows search for a device driver, and it should pick up the adapter, and install the correct drivers for it. Also, there should now be an icon in the control panel for Bluetooth configuration.
Now, since I had already installed the adapter using the WIDCOMM drivers, I had to repeat the above steps, except instead of "USB Device" in device manager, I saw a "MSI USB Bluetooth Device" that had to be deleted.

[y0lorenzo]

Originally Posted by avatar78

Just wanted to post how I got it to work finally. I used the super-helpful instructions I'm reposting here, sorry I can't post links yet. It was on blackberryforums dot pinstack dot com. I used a Cirago BTA-3210 dongle from Newegg. I'm sure that's not the only dongle that will work, but it's what worked for me.

I added the PnPId to the bth.inf file just like he described. Just plug the file name %windir%\inf\bth.inf into the search on the start button menu to find it. Add your string, and save the file.

Once I was at the point where I plugged in the dongle again, I went into its properties and clicked update driver, and just had XP search, no specific location. After a few minutes, 4 showed up. I used the first one, which I believe said something about generic, but wasn't actually from Microsoft. It wasn't one of the driver-signed ones that looked more tempting. After that, it was smooth as silk, and I just used the BB tutorial at the beginning of this thread. I hope this helps someone who's pulling their hair out like I was this week.


Default Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bulz_Eye_

There absolutely is a way to make any bluetooth dongle compatible with the microsoft bluetooth stack.

I spent a day shopping for bluetooth dongles, none of which were compatible. Then i found that almost all work with the micrsoft stack. stupid WHQL cerficiation is the only thing preventing them.

i cant post links but here it is:

Using the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack (instead of WIDCOMM) on Windows XP w/ SP2

I recently purchased a , and wanted to use it on my laptop to connect to Motorola V600 cell phone and dial up to the internet. I remember reading that the newly released Service Pack 2 for (stack) built in.
This means that all you should be able to plug in your USB Bluetooth adapter, a Bluetooth icon should appear in the control panel, and you should be on your way! Well, that would be nice, but after some research I found that the xpsp2 Bluetooth support was only for adapters that had WHQL certified drivers. According to Microsoft, only a were supported by the built in Windows XP (WHQL) driver.
The drivers that came with my Kensington adapter were WIDCOMM drivers.
Unfortunately these drivers are not WHQL certified, and cannot use the XP(sp2) built in Bluetooth stack. You must instead install the WIDCOMM Bluetooth stack, which seemed to work ok for me, but if Windows has this built in, why not use it?
Besides, I hate installing extra software that I don't need!
So I got started looking for a WHQL certified driver for the Kensington adapter. Well, to make this short, they don't exist (not that I could find at least). I did find newer WIDCOMM drivers though on Logitech's website, but they were still not WHQL certified, and therefore can not use the XP Bluetooth stack.
After going back and reading the list of Bluetooth adapters support by XP, I noticed the PnPID's listed next to each device. So I figured, why not just add the Kensington PnPID to the built in drivers inf file, and see if the built in drivers will work?
After locating the proper inf file: %windir%\inf\bth.inf
I opened it in notepad, read through it a little bit, and saw that there wasn't anything specific for each of the different manufactures devices. So on about line 60, under one of the device sections, I added my USB adapters PnPID like so:

;----------------------- Device section - Start -----------------------

[ALPS.NT.5.1]
ALPS Integrated Bluetooth Device= BthUsb, USB\Vid_044e&Pid_3005
Alps Bluetooth USB Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_044e&Pid_3006

[Belkin.NT.5.1]
Belkin Bluetooth Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_050d&Pid_0081
Belkin Bluetooth Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_050d&Pid_0084
Kensington USB Bluetooth Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_0db0&Pid_697a



Now, you may ask, well how did I know my adapters PnPID?
Well, I pulled mine out of the registry, but there is a much easier way!

After inserting the Bluetooth adapter into one of the computers USB ports, Windows will ask to install drivers for it, and it won’t be able to find any drivers for the device, and it will simply add the adapter to device manager as "USB Device" with a small yellow exclamation point under it. Well if you go into the device manager, double-click on the "USB Device" and look at the details tab, you will notice that in the drop down menu, there is an option called "Hardware Ids". Select this option, and in the area below will appear that devices Hardware (or PnPID) Ids. You need to copy one of those strings EXACTLY from that area, into the bth.inf file.
After that, delete the "USB Device" from device manager, and un-plug, and re-plug the Bluetooth adapter into your computer system. When prompted, let Windows search for a device driver, and it should pick up the adapter, and install the correct drivers for it. Also, there should now be an icon in the control panel for Bluetooth configuration.
Now, since I had already installed the adapter using the WIDCOMM drivers, I had to repeat the above steps, except instead of "USB Device" in device manager, I saw a "MSI USB Bluetooth Device" that had to be deleted.

I followed these directions and edited the bth file with "Trendnet USB Bluetooth Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_0a5c&Pid_2101&Rev_0100". When I re-loaded the bluetooth adapter it installed just fine, but I guess somethings screwed up... Not only does Blackberry Desktop Manager still have all the bluetooth options grayed out, my motorola S9 headphones dont work!!! lol so theres a problem. will try this again some other time.

[y0lorenzo]

update*

after taking a day or 2 to let my brain reset, i am happy to announce that this hack works great. i uninstalled the widcomm stuff. deleted it from device manager. pasted the line in the bth file. restarting between some of the steps worked. but finally "turn on bluetooth" and configure were selectable options in blackberry desktop manager.

my one complaint is not with this solution... all i could get to work with bdm was synch... not media manager, not backup... so whats the good with bluetoothing if you cant do any of the goodies anyway?

also... now that i connected with bluetooth, it wont automatically recognize my phone with usb. bluetooth was the first thing it ever connected to, i never even tried to synch with a cord. figured, why bother? but now THAT wont work... strange.

[PapaDeGraceBella]

i can do it all except get online through the bb bluetooth; desktop manager works, file transfer etc. through the usb, i can get online with sprint smartview software. i know im missing something small. any help?

running vista sp1, curve 8330 sprint service

[mcapehart]

I have Vista Business and an 8830. I have successfully paired the two. On my PC for the properties of my BB, Desktop Connectivity and Wireless Bypass are showing enabled. On my BB, however the properties for my PC do not show these two.

Now, despite this, DTM sees my device and even shows the pin in Connection options. I even get the 'Bluetooth Device Detected' dialog, which asks if I want to connect via Bluetooth.

This is where the problem is. I say Yes to this prompt and it just keeps asking over and over and over...it never connects.

Any ideas?

[Tammyd803]

I've got a question...
Can I bluetooth a theme (that I download) to my friends BB?


Thanks
Tammy

[CipherDias]

Originally Posted by shadowsports

Please see my prev post #20.

Just wanted to check back and see if anyone has had luck syncing over bluetooth on a Vista OS?

After much trying I finally bought a new BT dongle and installed it with just Vistas drivers and it works great now! Whatever ya don't use the manufacturers BT stack but use Microsofts that comes with Vista!!

[bbartle]

This literally took me a couple of months to sort out. If you are connected to a BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server), this is disabled by default and you won't be able to do anything about it unless you can bribe your admin. If you have your own consumer blackberry or aren't connected to a BES, the following may work for you.

- First, backup your Blackberry using Desktop Manager.
- Second download a 4.5.x OS such as this one - mediafire.com/?gnvehbcgiw3]8830uAMEA_PBr4.5.0_rel101_PL3.2.0.51_A4.5.0.77.exe and run the Installer. If you are feeling particularly crafty, remove a lot of the excess stuff using CrackMem forums.crackberry.com/f35/crackmem-v2-x-released-52044/
- Install the OS by running Desktop Manager once you have run the 4.5 installer. The install should start automatically.
- Backup you Blackberry again
- Use JL_Cmder to "resettofactory"
- Restore your data (that you already backed up twice, just to be safe!)
- Make the PC a Trusted connection in 8830 Bluetooth options
- Verify that you see Desktop Connectivity and Wireless Bypass in your list of Bluetooth services on your 8830
- Enable Bluetooth support in Connection Options in Desktop Manager and find your device
- Sync away

[sunny.branstetter]

Originally Posted by bbartle

This literally took me a couple of months to sort out. If you are connected to a BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server), this is disabled by default and you won't be able to do anything about it unless you can bribe your admin. If you have your own consumer blackberry or aren't connected to a BES, the following may work for you.

- First, backup your Blackberry using Desktop Manager.
- Second download a 4.5.x OS such as this one - mediafire.com/?gnvehbcgiw3]8830uAMEA_PBr4.5.0_rel101_PL3.2.0.51_A4.5.0.77.exe and run the Installer. If you are feeling particularly crafty, remove a lot of the excess stuff using CrackMem forums.crackberry.com/f35/crackmem-v2-x-released-52044/
- Install the OS by running Desktop Manager once you have run the 4.5 installer. The install should start automatically.
- Backup you Blackberry again
- Use JL_Cmder to "resettofactory"
- Restore your data (that you already backed up twice, just to be safe!)
- Make the PC a Trusted connection in 8830 Bluetooth options
- Verify that you see Desktop Connectivity and Wireless Bypass in your list of Bluetooth services on your 8830
- Enable Bluetooth support in Connection Options in Desktop Manager and find your device
- Sync away

This did not work for me. I have been trying for a week to get this bluetooth connectivity screen to not be disabled but nothing is working. I went to that mediafire page and maybe I misunderstood but it is just a file sharing program...so I didn't get that.

[BMWGuinness]

Hello,

I have found a solution.

I have a Curve 8330 through Sprint

I have Windows Vista x64 edition with bluetooth internal on my Toshiba Qosmio x305-q701

I use version 4.7 on my laptop for the Desktop and Device Managers.

Here is what I did.

I had the laptop discover the blackberry and everything connects fine until I get 2 Blackberry Peripheral Devices showing up in the Device Manager and asking for drivers. At this time, I have not been able to find drivers, so I just tell it to not ask again, however, I do not disable them.

Now, follow the instructions below: (Please note I cannot post URLS, so please copy/paste the links and precede them with "https://www.")

Download and install the BlackBerry Device Manager ENG (DM4.7 B50)
blackberry.com/Downloads/contactFormPreload.do?code=A8BAA56554F96369AB93E4F 3BB068C22&dl=58AD46EEB9764DC9C78C1356AE90EA10

Download and install the Blackberry Desktop Manager 4.7.0 B50 English - With Media Manager
blackberry.com/Downloads/contactFormPreload.do?code=A8BAA56554F96369AB93E4F 3BB068C22&dl=A13B910D65139AAB11D77DD285B4AE39

Make sure the Blackberry Device Manager is running and double click it in the taskbar.
You will get a menu that has the Device Connection tab open.
Check Turn on Bluetooth Options and click Configure Bluetooth.
Add your Blackberry (follow the instructions)
Make sure that it now shows up under Device Connection

Right click your network connection in the taskbar (looks like 2 monitors) and left click Connect to a Network.

Under Dial-Up and VPN Connections you should see a 3G or CDMA connection
Right click it and left click properties
Change the Connect Using to Standard Modem over Bluetooth
Change the phone number to #777 (this is for sprint)

From here I can connect without any authentication, I get about 400k down speed. When I am tethered I can get around 1200k down speed.
I have the Unlimited Everything Plan for $99

So now I can use the cellphone as a bluetooth modem, and it also syncs with the Desktop Manager.

Hope this helps. Remember, just ignore the windows peripheral devices.

[PCgirl]

OMG. I thought my beloved Curve had failed me. Turns out my USB jack decided to die tonight and my battery is about to die and I can't charge or sync and I hadn't synced in two weeks and I've been holding out for the Curve 8900 so I didn't really want to have to get the replacement thru insurance and pay the deductible only to upgrade to the new BB WHENEVER it gets here.

Breathe.

Anyway, I was having a nervous breakdown thinking of all the stuff I hadn't synced over during the past two weeks and the thought of having to start over with a new device made me want to cry.

And then I found this thread.

Thank you so much for posting the bluetooth link for the how-to. I was able to get it to work. (I have an HP2510 on Vista 32) It never occurred to me to sync via bluetooth! Now I just have to get a charging cradle!!! And when that Curve 8900 finally arrives, I can switch over, no problem!

[toylvr]

Thank you, thank you! for the instructions on modifying the .inf file. Worked like a charm.

[idelgado782]

I still couldn't get it to work. My computer paired with my phone but when I go into DM and select Connections-> Configure Bluetooth-> Add-> DM couldn't find my phone although it was paired. When I went into my computers bluetooth settings, clicked on properties then services for my phone it says that the following
"This Bluetooth device offers the following services, To use a service check the box"
Then the services that are listed are :
Advanced Audio
Dial-up Networking (DUN)
Headset Audio Gateway

Thats it! But if I am correct it should have many services listed such as
Data Transfer
A/V Remote Control
PIM Transfer
Etc.

I think because of the lack of services found on my computer for my phone is what is causing the DM not to locate the phone to sync via bluetooth.

Now the million dollar questions is how do I rectify that? Any takers guys?