T-Mobile/RIM Seminar - BES 4.1 sp5/OS 4.3/OS 4.5

SLVR6 · Thread Author #1 03-06-2008, 04:04 PM

Okay, the details from the T-Mobile/RIM Seminar today are as follows:

BES 4.1 sp5 - All the details concerning BES 4.1 sp5 are correct.......except html and rich text support for email, that has been moved to sp6. sp5 is now available for BES admins to download.

Device OS 4.3 - OS 4.3 WILL be released in April sometime. It will not however be what we once thought it was. It will be mostly bug fixes, but will include video recording and voice notes. Should be release for the 8820 and 8320 sometime in April (roughly coinciding with the release of the 8120).

Device OS 4.5 - Most of the features that are enabled with BES 4.1 sp5 will require OS 4.5 to work. This will not be released until late spring or early summer (that is all that they would say). It will include quite a bit of stuff, word and slides to go (basic version, full available to purchase), ability to save docs to sd card, all the email search and free busy lookup features, BES only email view, IM contacts in address book.

8120 - As noted above, due out sometime in late April
8820 - Should be released next week.

Hope that was all my notes. Not the news I was hoping to hear, nice to put down some rough dates though.

jmejiaa · #2 03-06-2008, 05:50 PM

It sucks that it will be a while but at least we have some time frames

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Txaircraftmech · #3 03-06-2008, 06:13 PM

So I am on BIS and your saying I cant use 4.5 without having BES? I am trying to understand whats going on. I have no use for BES because I work for a company that doesnt support BES. Confused!

SLVR6 · Thread Author #4 03-06-2008, 06:43 PM

I don't know the details of what is going on with BIS. I can ask our T-mobile rep if he knows. The seminar was mainly for BES today, but I would assume BIS will mirror it. The crux of todays was that even though BES 4.1 sp5 is released now and supports all the features (except for html email), device OS 4.5 is need to actually use them. Same will be the case for these features being available for BIS (which I am on also since I got my own BB instead of the company one, they wouldn't get me a curve). I will let you know what I find out about BIS.

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xOrphenochx · #5 03-06-2008, 10:51 PM

Ok, that doesn't make much sense, you release sp5 in march, but make people wait months to use the new features? I know things like this are never widely used until months/years later since most companies are not early adopters, but still....

brian_peterson · #6 03-07-2008, 02:05 PM

To me for RIM to stay competitive, with the iPhone, they need to

1) Add more media features and make them even cooler
2) throw in a touch screen to shut people up (I don't like touch screens).
3) Normal email... I don't even consider HTML as a feature you could leave out. It's a fundamental flaw that is, in my opinion, a bug. Now I know older Blackberry users have gotten use to it. But really, to me it's a bug.
4) High End browser.

So, first off I am not a big media person. So, I can't say what would be needed to make that iphoneish. I just know there needs to be a revamp, because ipod people have told me so.

But for the Web Browser. I have, again in my opinion, critical bug fixes.
1) Tab Browsing
2) Full FireFox level internet (or WebKit, or something better than BB Browser)
3) Switch to landscape and portrait (ok this is a new feature)
4) Better Flash support (yes I know iphone does not even have that).
5) easier navigation over huge full sized web pages (like Opera, but on the pearl it does not work, because the screen is too small). Note: iphone has this down pat.

So, I can fix bug 1. No real email (html)... So, I am using empower now, the second I heard SP5 dropped it.

BTW: For RIM to be relevant (in my opinion). They need to do all I described by the end or beginning of next year.

That's why I am really worried. A few bug fixes for 4.5 OS... when...? Aprilish? Maybe later? Eeeek! RIM you better start getting your guys in motion.

How long would it take for them to even just revamp the Web Browser at this current rate? Two years? And it sounds like RIM never throws out surprises like Apple?

I could be wrong on some things here. Just throwing out ideas to help them.

stringbeanie · #7 03-09-2008, 09:44 PM

Please just fix the darn memory leak. It is SO annoying. I am tired of battery pulls to get lost memory back.

Benny · #8 03-11-2008, 01:26 AM

I just call T-Mobile last week and ask about the 4.3/4.5 OS release, and the rep say "I don't know...", so I doubt any date is out there right now......

SLVR6 · Thread Author #9 03-11-2008, 03:10 AM

Curious, not to be rude, did you read the beggining of the post? Information came from a seminar T-mobile and RIM put on in Detroit last week for business customers. The release dates were right from the RIM people who were putting on the seminar.

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sunkast · #10 03-11-2008, 03:21 AM

In detroit huh? That's where I live (well suburbs of).

SLVR6 · Thread Author #11 03-11-2008, 10:18 AM

Yep, suburbs also for me (and most of us!). Live in Brighton, work in Auburn Hills mostly. You?

sunkast · #12 03-11-2008, 01:53 PM

I'm in Canton, and I work all over, though my company is based in Ferndale.

richieos · #13 03-19-2008, 12:19 AM

This is my current configuration

Blackberry 8120 v4.3.0.91 (platform 2.6.0.52)
cryptographic kernel v3.8.5.11c

voicesignal vsuite 2.1 version 2088
I can record video
I can record voice notes