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06-05-2007, 01:37 AM
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when i bought my 8800 it said blackberry enterprise server required....what is that?
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06-05-2007, 02:27 AM
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BIS - BlackBerry Internet Service = email service provided by the respective carrier; T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, Rogers, etc, etc...
BES - BlackBerry Enterprise Server = email service provided by a server ran by a company. For example by your employer...
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06-06-2007, 08:08 AM
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What can you do if your company doesn't have BES? My new job doesn't have BES and I am going to be the only one using a blackberry, but I want to be able to access company email.
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06-06-2007, 08:25 AM
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You can try webmail from your device. Alternatively, see if you can forward a copy of your corporate email to your personal email account. But, replying to those email might prove difficult, i.e. the from email address would be different, etc. With GMail, you could add an alias email address...
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06-11-2007, 06:46 PM
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If I recall correctly, a corporate email using BIS sets up very similarly to a yahoo, Gmail or other POP account. Last year I was using a 7290 via T-Mobile and was able to receive corporate email by setting up my account on T-Mobiles website. There was a 15 minute delay, but I received my corporate email.
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06-11-2007, 06:57 PM
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I am using both BIS and BES. I have the desktop software installed on my corporate laptop. Version 4.2.2 allows me to see the status of my device. It also tells me the time and date of the last message sent from my device.
My question is this: If BIS and BES work independently of each other, why is it that the status of my last message sent via Gmail shows up in the device status of my desktop software?
For the record, I verified that I did not accidentally send an email with my corporate account, and verified the time of the last message sent and received from my corporate account. I also did the same check via my Gmail account and it matched exactly the time in device status.
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06-11-2007, 07:08 PM
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To be honest I don't think the run independantly of each other...
The reason I say this, is I had to re-add my BlackBerry to BES today, and it seemed to make changes to my BlackBerry Pin Messenger. It sort of reloaded users I got rid of a few days again...
Strange that - am sure that BIS & BES actually work hand in hand more than we think...
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06-11-2007, 07:15 PM
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Scary. I'd hate to think that my personal emails, innocent as the content might be, are actually ending up somewhere in my corporate enviornment.
I believe, and am hoping, that the relationship between BIS & BES stops short of content sharing.
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06-11-2007, 07:47 PM
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Well I checked the BES logs and nothing from personal (BIS) shows up...
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07-28-2007, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by navilyn  To be honest I don't think the run independantly of each other...
The reason I say this, is I had to re-add my BlackBerry to BES today, and it seemed to make changes to my BlackBerry Pin Messenger. It sort of reloaded users I got rid of a few days again...
Strange that - am sure that BIS & BES actually work hand in hand more than we think...
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com | They work hand in hand in the sense that both utilize the RIM infrastructure. They are 2 applications that pipe into the same infrastructure. In short, they are different methods to get your message into the same RIM / Blackberry network. From there it is processed by RIM to your end devices.
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07-28-2007, 11:39 AM
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The ONLY way that any BIS info will show up on BES is if the BES Admin's setup all outgoing e-mail to go through the BES.
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08-07-2007, 12:46 AM
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I have been searching the forum and from what I have figured out... if you are running BES, you can invite someone to a meeting (via calendar). You are unable to send an invite of you are using BIS. Is this correct?
If it is, can someone explain the single user BES that is available thru the BlackBerry site?
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08-22-2007, 10:12 AM
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Wow! You are all so knowledgeable. I always wondered about this information and you answered all my questions! I do forward my work email (First Class Client) to my crackberry account. It works really well. But you are correct that the address is not the same.
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11-13-2007, 07:17 PM
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Im getting lost ...quickly!
If my device is connected via corporate BES, but i have BIS setup to foward all Gmail emails to my device. How do you reply to those emails via gmail? It automatically replies via my corporate mail account set up on Blackberry.
So people email me at gmail, but i end up replying via corporate, how can i manage both addresses from device?
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11-13-2007, 09:28 PM
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When you are replying, before sending you go right on top of the message above the "TO:" field, you will see "Send Using:" -> on default it will always pick up the BES account however you can change this option to the BIS address. If you want the BIS account to always be your default address then go to Settings -> Advanced Options -> Message/Default Services -> Change it from Desktop to your BIS address
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