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Old 09-06-2008, 01:44 PM
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Weird, I'm getting my gmail messages much faster now. Have not determined if it's instant though.
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Old 09-07-2008, 02:47 AM
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Yep, my IMAP account is receiving e mails instantly...

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If you are still getting IMAP messages very slowly from Gmail, like 10-15 minute delay, then I would suggest completely deleting your Gmail account from BIS and re-adding it.

I had IMAP set up since they first supported it and wasn't getting any speed increases after they added IMAP IDLE. Once I deleted and re-added my Gmail account in BIS, they started delivering pretty quickly.

BTW, I too had first tried to resend the service books, but that doesn't work.
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:28 PM
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No dice for me. I even deleted my account, restarted my BB, and then added the account. Still nothing.

I actually have a proxy running between BIS and my IMAP server. I can plainly see BIS logging out after every connection. And my server lists IDLE when sent the capability command.

So this is either a gmail only feature, or it is slowly being rolled out??

Is anyone with a non-gmail account getting the IDLE feature to work?
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:56 PM
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No dice for me. I even deleted my account, restarted my BB, and then added the account. Still nothing.

I actually have a proxy running between BIS and my IMAP server. I can plainly see BIS logging out after every connection. And my server lists IDLE when sent the capability command.

So this is either a gmail only feature, or it is slowly being rolled out??

Is anyone with a non-gmail account getting the IDLE feature to work?
Some mail servers don't implement IMAP IDLE properly (I'm looking at you, Courier-Imapd). I'm running my own IMAP server with Dovecot IMAP and my mail is getting instantly pushed. So, it's not Gmail-specific.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:02 PM
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Some mail servers don't implement IMAP IDLE properly (I'm looking at you, Courier-Imapd). I'm running my own IMAP server with Dovecot IMAP and my mail is getting instantly pushed. So, it's not Gmail-specific.
Of course Courier is what my server runs. Argh, well no big deal I already have a proxy in between BIS and the server to correct the NAMESPACE issue.

Now I just have to figure out what BIS wants to see in order to make this work properly.

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Old 09-13-2008, 09:42 PM
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Gmail has ALWAYS been instant, always...

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Old 09-14-2008, 12:02 PM
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Gmail has ALWAYS been instant, always...

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Not for everyone. Many of us received email in the typical 15 minute window. Lately, within the past week or so, it seems much faster though.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:29 PM
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weird, I have been using BIS and i always got my imap emails quick on my bb. I dont know about instantly, but i get my emails on my Bb always before they come on my PC. The email will be sitting on my BB, and I will press send/receive on my PC but it still does not come for a few minutes.
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:29 AM
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My BIS accounts have both reverted to 15-20 minutes polling delays in the last day or so. Anyone else having this issue? Anyone know how to fix it? I'm on Verizon.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:33 AM
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Gmail added IMAP in 2007, before then it was pop only.
And I don't get my gmail faster with pop than IMAP.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:50 AM
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My BIS accounts have both reverted to 15-20 minutes polling delays in the last day or so. Anyone else having this issue? Anyone know how to fix it? I'm on Verizon.
Well I have spent the last few days analyzing the new IDLE function on BIS. The quick answer to your question is to delete you email account in BIS and reinstall it. This re-enables IDLE in 5-10 minutes.

Some things I have found:

1. The IDLE connection runs independent of the normal IMAP connection. This second connect just monitors your email for changes. If a change is seen it automatically tells the old IMAP client to connect and update itself.

2. The IDLE connection will periodically un-IDLE itself and check for changes. This appears to be every 4:30 minutes. This is actually needed because some IMAP servers treat the IDLE as only a means to keep a connection open and do not send updates until the client asks for them. For these people the new IDLE function cuts the new mail check interval from 15 minutes to 4:30 minutes.

3. The IDLE connection appears to only be able to handle a specific number of errors. After each error it will disconnect and reconnect at some later time. However, it appears that if it is forced to disconnect and reconnect more than X times, then the IDLE server gives up and stops trying. I have not been able to determine if the IDLE server will attempt a connection at some later date, or if it just gives up permanently. Also I have not determined if it has to be X number of errors in a given time or if just X errors total causes this.

4. This new feature seems to have NO effect on the delay in syncing messages deleted on the server with the device. For example if you delete an email from your inbox on your computer. It will still remain on your device for at least a few hours. I can see the IDLE connection being informed of the deletion and I also see the second connection come in and confirm that the email was deleted. But it still appears that the email will remain on your device for something like 1-3 hours. This is starting to look like a "feature" in the BIS server.

The Main Problem:
I have seen multiple people stating that BIS has fallen back to the 15 minute delay for them after so many days of having push-like email. Like toomanywords it appears that the IDLE connection has just received too many errors and has died at least for an extended period of time, if not permanently. Hopefully RIM will fix this problem, or you may have to delete and re-add your email once a month(or whatever).
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:09 PM
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Some mail servers don't implement IMAP IDLE properly (I'm looking at you, Courier-Imapd). I'm running my own IMAP server with Dovecot IMAP and my mail is getting instantly pushed. So, it's not Gmail-specific.
I'm running my own server here with Courier and often wondered if I should explore the others again. I'd be interested to hear how you see the current comparison between Courier and Dovecot.
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:17 PM
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I'm running my own server here with Courier and often wondered if I should explore the others again. I'd be interested to hear how you see the current comparison between Courier and Dovecot.
I don't know as much about dovecot, but I can tell you my headaches with courier. There are really 2 that relate to the BB.

1. Courier uses NAMESPACE and puts all folders under the inbox. This causes issues for the BB because it only looks for the sent and trash folders in the base directory.

2. Courier(at least the way my host has it set up) does not provide updates during idle, at all. It accepts idle, but if a new message comes in it remains silent. Then as soon as the client sends DONE, it sends the update. This may be a server setting issue, I see that there are different options, however in the most basic method I think it is still supposed to at least send updates every minute.

I solve both of these headaches by putting a proxy in between BIS and my server. That way I can rewrite the requests for Sent to Inbox.Sent. And also force more frequent idle updates.
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Old 09-29-2008, 06:44 AM
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Btw is there any way to check if the IDLE command is implemented properly? I have my company email account setup via IMAP but I receive the mails really late there.
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