palm pre vs blackberry

[jayhammy]

Battery pulls for the blackberry? I can see that happening for the Storm, but for any other BB device, you shouldn't need to do batt pulls. On my previous 8703 and 8830 and now on my Tour 9630, I don't have to do batt pulls.

I think the Tour blows away the Pre overall. Yes, the Pre has a cool OS and RIM needs to update its own OS (5.0???), but I need a device that's great for e-mail, and my new Tour is the best device ever for that. I tried the Pre's keyboard and actually laughed out loud at it in the store before putting it down and walking out the door.

[cheech4]

i find it easier to type on the Pre than the Tour, for me the keys being together as they are on the Tour it was harder for me to type with out hitting other keys and making mistakes. although the keyboard on the Pre is smaller its much more spaced out and i find it easier for me to type.
another reason i traded in the Tour for the Pre was the same old BB OS, sure its a little more refined and faster, but the Pre web OS blows it out of the water.

[BzB]

lol! easier to type on the pre than the tour??? unpossible. not only is the pre keyboard about half the size of the tour's but the tactile feedback doesn't compare, the feel of the keys themselves don't compare, and having to reach down into the pre's slider to type anything is a ridiculous exercise of self hate.

i'd bet if this were a poll on any pre site of your choosing more users would say typing on a bb keyboard is not only easier but far more pleasurable than the pre. even the pre users here agree the keyboard needs a LOT of work to compare to a bb like the tour.

now everyone is entitled to your opinion and i'll give you pre users that, but if you think typing on the pre is easier than a bb then either you're in a massive state of denial, have some weird kind of deformity with your hands/fingers, suffering from fanboy delusions, or you just don't use the pre to type at all and only use it for browsing the innernets and flicking cards.

...still lol'ling at easier to type on pre than tour. classic. lol!

[formerlyknownasame]

Originally Posted by BzB

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Are you ever going to post something educated and useful or will you continue to spout unfounded fan-boy nonsense? Why do you bother coming into this section if you have no actual knowledge and long-term use of both products? The poster didn't come to incite a riot of baseless information. I haven't been on CBForums all that long but I have come to know that your posts are completely wasteful of server space.

[cnej]

Originally Posted by XxXjacobXxX

Web os is so great! I could never go back to my blackberry because this phone is so lite and it has full touchscreen and a qwerty keybored which is great 4 txting and emailing batterylife sucks but you can go to sprint and they will give you a 2nd battery for free great I know I could never go back to my non touch blackberry! The only thing the pre is missing that the blackberry has is the labeling SPACE on the space bar but really who kneeds that everybody knows that is the space bar

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

i actually HATE touch screens. i got a blackberry because i was sick of my htc touch for sprint. laaaame

[teknqe]

bb > pre since pre isn't capable of wap browsing!

[Pimp Lucious]

There is some serious difference between resistive(Touch Pro) and capacitive(Pre, Iphone) touchscreens, especially when you factor in multitouch. I had no problems going from my HTC MDA to a 8330 as I didn't use the touchscreen all that much since it required a stylus to be really precise. I would literally cry if I had to go back to my curve from the multitouch Pre screen. It would probably take me a week to stop swiping at the screen.

[cheech4]

Originally Posted by BzB

lol! easier to type on the pre than the tour??? unpossible. not only is the pre keyboard about half the size of the tour's but the tactile feedback doesn't compare, the feel of the keys themselves don't compare, and having to reach down into the pre's slider to type anything is a ridiculous exercise of self hate.

i'd bet if this were a poll on any pre site of your choosing more users would say typing on a bb keyboard is not only easier but far more pleasurable than the pre. even the pre users here agree the keyboard needs a LOT of work to compare to a bb like the tour.

now everyone is entitled to your opinion and i'll give you pre users that, but if you think typing on the pre is easier than a bb then either you're in a massive state of denial, have some weird kind of deformity with your hands/fingers, suffering from fanboy delusions, or you just don't use the pre to type at all and only use it for browsing the innernets and flicking cards.

...still lol'ling at easier to type on pre than tour. classic. lol!

Dude think what you want your opinion is just that yours, as far as the others that's there opinion too.. For me yes i find it easier to type with the Pre than the Tour, i have chubby fingers and with the keys together as they are on the Tour i was making alot more mistakes. i was typing faster yes but made more mistakes.

[Fire-Detention]

What i think is that when people switch from blackberry to any other phone they should give up there crackberry account also.

[cheech4]

Originally Posted by Fire-Detention

What i think is that when people switch from blackberry to any other phone they should give up there crackberry account also.

I disagree there, i had 3 blackberries before my Pre i feel i earned a spot in the crackberry nation. I'm a guy who doesn't stick to just one brand of phone, but blackberry did have a nice share of ownership. I switched to the Pre cuz the 8930 is not available yet threw Sprint. Switching to AT&T or T mobile for the 8900 was not an option either so i tried out the Tour. The Tour was a great device but the Keyboard was a little tough for me to type on with out making mistakes, also its the same OS and after going threw 3 BB's i felt it was time for a change. I didn't want a winmo device cuz i tried it and was not to fond with it, and android is not available yet either so that leaves me with the Pre, and now after owning it for a little while now i am very happy with my purchase.

[brianr0131]

Just switched to Pre for 6 days and went back to my Storm. Pre with exchange email = epic phail. I never made it to noon on the battery on a work day.

Other than that the phone was really a lot of fun. Phone app itself was a mess at times. Threaded sms and push exchange email, contacts and calendar were really cool too.

Battery killed the deal for me though. It's unusable for a business person who needs exchange. Don't even bother trying.

[mycrownvic02]

For me the pre does everything better than any blackberry has ever done for the most part. I have had 5 different ones over the years including the bold.While the pre does take a little longer to open up apps, this is nothing that cant be cured by updates. The pre more than makes up for the slight lag in opening apps with its browser and media capabilities, which blow any blackberry out of the water. Infact, the pre runs about the same speed as the 3gs does, and even faster on youtube. As for email, i like the email integration much better, and I like how the messaging looks rather than the black and white screen that rim offers. Unless rim does a major overhaul, which they wont, I wont be returning to them unless I have serious issues. Rim needs to play catch up with the rest of everyone else. I cant stand seeing the same os on every phone for the past several years. I guess we will see what they have in store for the future, but I dont think to much. Looking at the video with the storm 2 about sums everything up for me. Both apple and palm are years ahead os/ browser wise.

[BzB]

the only thing pre users have to fall back on is a skin-deep pretty ui and a nice browser.

outside of that, and taken as a whole package, the pre is a few rungs down on the ladder when compared to products from rim, apple, htc, and even other palm devices like the treo pro.

the pre is a wannabe's take on the iphone with horrendous build quality, bad idea slider mechanism, and an afterthought kill me now keyboard. add to it that the pre is not rugged enough for daily long term use. i can see the majority of pre owners going through 5 replacements in a year for oreo issues with the slider and other problems with the phone just falling apart or dying.

pre users can cherry pick the nice parts of the phone to make it look better than it really is, like the browser and ui , but taken as an overall experience the pre is a saddening effort from palm. at least the webos has promise and might make a good fit with the pre 2 or some other palm device.

still catching my breath from rofling at the pre users who think their keyboard is better than any qwerty blackberry. LOL!!!

[mycrownvic02]

Originally Posted by BzB

the only thing pre users have to fall back on is a skin-deep pretty ui and a nice browser.

outside of that, and taken as a whole package, the pre is a few rungs down on the ladder when compared to products from rim, apple, htc, and even other palm devices like the treo pro.

the pre is a wannabe's take on the iphone with horrendous build quality, bad idea slider mechanism, and an afterthought kill me now keyboard. add to it that the pre is not rugged enough for daily long term use. i can see the majority of pre owners going through 5 replacements in a year for oreo issues with the slider and other problems with the phone just falling apart or dying.

pre users can cherry pick the nice parts of the phone to make it look better than it really is, like the browser and ui , but taken as an overall experience the pre is a saddening effort from palm. at least the webos has promise and might make a good fit with the pre 2 or some other palm device.

still catching my breath from rofling at the pre users who think their keyboard is better than any qwerty blackberry. LOL!!!

The build quality is definately not as bad as all the rumors are around here.. Sure people have had some problems, but With later model pre's the build quality has been getting better. They are using a better sliding mechanism now. I for one have not been having any sliding issues, and it feels solid on the hand, no wobbles period. The keyboard is obviously no blackberry, but I can type faster on the pre than I ever could on any touchscreen device. Wanna be ipone? If anything the storm is closer to an iphone before the pre is. Let me guess, since the pre has a browser just as good or better than the iphone, and great media capabilities, it makes it an iphone wanna be?

Face it, rim is getting left in the dust, everyone has cought them, and surpassed them for the most part. Its getting kind of sad to see rim not trying to do anything to make improvements. Ive been using blackberrys since the 8700, and the 8830s came into the equation, and nothing has changed since then. Simply put, they need some fresh ideas. Maybe not a complete overhaul, but something to freshn up things, and they need to get rid of that atrocious thing they call a browser. Whats sad is that we have to use 3rd party apps just to get a halfway decent browser. I recall you saying a phone is more than a browser, and you are correct, but I dont want to have to wait 5 minutes for a site to load, when It takes 15 seconds on my pre. Many times I need to check my bank statements from work, and ect, and I dont have time to wait 5 minutes.

With all this said, the pre is by no means perfect, and still has bugs to be worked out, but atleast palm tried. Rim is not trying at all. I hope they release something worth gettting in the near future, because with their current offerings, its nothing I havent experienced already with my bold, or ect.

[BzB]

rim (who holds more of the smartphone market share than any other single device manufacturer..and growing) is getting left in the dust? i can understand fanboy delusions, but when you come back to reality please show us some tangible evidence to support this wild and unfounded claim. put up or shut up. thank you

and the horrible build quality is not just a rumor, it's a reality. the return rate of the palm pre would have surpassed the storm if it were sold at the same volume. the pre has the worst build quality of any of the smart phones it can be compared against. the materials are cheap, design and construction are cheap, the keyboard and slider mechanism is a cheapshot that mocks those who need to send out message.

the pre is an iphone wannabe. palm hired away apple's old school, and said they want something that will beat the iphone. they made a very good attempt with webos and then fell flat on their a$$ bone on the hardware side. they even try to trick apple software into thinking it's an ipod! lol!

you guys can continue hanging onto the pre's browsing capability like it's a big deal. newsflash...it's not. having a good browser alone will get you as far as that phone that has a linux based os...without a build quality as good as that phone. another newsflash...browsing is not at the top of the list for smart phone users in terms of needs. correction, all smartphone users except for those that have the pre. lol