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View Poll Results: How Did the Dumping Go?
I am a HAPPY & SUCCESSFUL Dumper! 76 34.39%
I am still in OEM Locked ****! 20 9.05%
Freed some Mem but the Pix Remain! 40 18.10%
I have No Idea What I Am Doing!!??!! 85 38.46%
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My only comment is maybe you should insert a "Clean JL_Cmder Wipe" somewhere in those steps?
Just a matter of opinion and experience ... this is exactly how I did my .90 upgrade; I prefer not to wipe every time (yuck...that didn't come out right). My preference is to wipe every 3rd OS install.

Also IMHO you should only quote the portion(s) of a previous post to help you maintain your point; the screen shots are an unnecessary 2nd read.
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this is going to sound stupid but it wont let me download crackmem there is nothing to click on .. am i missing something ? ( i went to petes post and is says cracmem here and i cant click)
sooks, you rockin' 92? Say what? How did that happen?
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Rooster has done a really super job with this guide. Thank you.

Here's a couple of extra points.
  • In between Rooster starting and finishing the guide, I was updating my program. CrackMem 3.3 is now available for download and it now correctly removes FaceBook and Flickr which 3.1. and 3.2 did not do so I reccomend that you down load the new version from here http://forums.crackberry.com/f35/cra...eleased-52044/
  • Several people have reported not being able to find the program in my post. The download file is located at the very end of my first post in the thread. Scroll down to the very end of my OP and right on the join between the end of my post and the next one (it's marked #2 ) you will come to the place shown in the picture below


You can see the zip file just below the picture of CrackMem's blue panel. All downloads are done this way in Crackberry so it's worth finding out how it works and where they are, I think.
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Most Storm users are running Desktop Manager 4.7 which has a number of nice features and will update your phone OTA. This is nice if you are not running a beta OS. For people who wish to run beta OSs the only way to upgrade has been to disconnect their internet connection before staring the upgrade process.

John Clark, who wrote the seminal thread on BlackBerry memory optimization has a solution and here's the link http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...-xml-file.html exoplaining how to stop DM 4.7 from upgrading (downgrading!?!) your phone and how to stop it from replacing Vendor.xml and other files that you may have removed with CrackMem or by other means. This is a one time fix that works forver once correctly implemented.
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Very useful post, new os installed and running perfectly! Thanks

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My only comment is maybe you should insert a "Clean JL_Cmder Wipe" somewhere in those steps?
I do not belive that a wipe is neccessary. There is a wipe done by Desktop Manager once it is ready to begin the OS install once it has completed the Backup. There's really no point in doing a wipe and then having Desktop Manager (well Loader.exe doing a loader /nojvm) do it 5 minutes later.

I do wipe phones at upgrade time but only if I am having trouble.

Telling Newbies to wipe their phone is just asking them to lose all their personal data.

Instead of using JL_Cmder, try CrackUtil. It does the same as JL_Cmder but has a better user interface and has a file manager besides. It is free and can be found via the link in my signature.

Both programs are front ends for the RIM program javaloader.exe which is distributed with both programs.
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Good info, I need to try this.
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I was going to ask this when update doesn't the dm wipe your phone?

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I do not belive that a wipe is neccessary. There is a wipe done by Desktop Manager once it is ready to begin the OS install once it has completed the Backup. There's really no point in doing a wipe and then having Desktop Manager (well Loader.exe doing a loader /nojvm) do it 5 minutes later.

I do wipe phones at upgrade time but only if I am having trouble.

Telling Newbies to wipe their phone is just asking them to lose all their personal data.

Instead of using JL_Cmder, try CrackUtil. It does the same as JL_Cmder but has a better user interface and has a file manager besides. It is free and can be found via the link in my signature.

Both programs are front ends for the RIM program javaloader.exe which is distributed with both programs.
Hi Pete! I appreciate the advice and more importantly your contributions to this community. You personally have helped me a great deal in the last year. You are definitely a champion poster and Crackberry VIP. That said, the Storm is a very quirky piece of hardware to put it mildly.

I have installed over other leaks and VZ officials OS's and "usually" I run into problems. I readily admit it could be my database, an application or my own clueless ineptitude. There are multiple permutations for what could be causing the bugs. Since doing clean installs from the last 4 upgrades(and a couple more than once), I don't have these problems anymore.

"Hopefully", once the Development community becomes better familiar with the Storm's UI, these problems will lessen and most of us will be able to install over a previous OS. Obviously it would save me a lot of time not having to reinstall applications and change settings from OS to OS.

And also, and I want to make this clear.

I was a GREEN PEA-NEOPHYTIC-NEWBIE once too. Defending people who don't try and improve their sense of knowledge by reading/searching instead of acting-speaking or typing is entirely unacceptable to me. If anyone messes up when doing an install there is only one person to blame. They can surely find "that person" by staring square into a mirror.

Rooster, this post is an EPIC MOVE FORWARD and you should have it STUCK in the "Storm Tips, How To & FAQ" Forum immediately. I am petitioning the Moderators for it to happen now.

One last question, so I can be a contributor rather than a "complainer".

Why don't you and JRRCivic08 figure out a couple more files to dump so we can optimize even more?

Have a great day all!
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I was going to ask this when update doesn't the dm wipe your phone?
Yes, the update process wipes your phone. It happens right after DM runs its Backup.
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Excellent info.
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Have a great day all!
There are more files to delete. You can delete things like fonts and extra languages. DocsToGo has extra languages instaled too. These are very small amounts of memory to get back and some people actually want this stuff installed.

CrackMem works by offering choices of module removal. but things like fonts would have to be done on an individual basis.

What is really required is that the Strom II comes with a LOT more memory. My 8900 has 256Mb and I no longer have to worry about memory. I have 161Mb File Free.
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Removing net_rim_bb_medialoader_360x480_t.cod will free up 1.8 megs or so but will also remove all the options for colored folders when adding a new folder. You'll be stuck with the vanillia default.
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Okay first off I am pretty technically savvy and I have never had any problems with upgrades or anything. I have run Crackmem it removed the .cod files for the sample pics from the Java folder. I am running DM 4.7. I ran DM it updated my phone. What I am tryiing to figure out is why are the sample pics still on my phone? Any advice.
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Okay first off I am pretty technically savvy and I have never had any problems with upgrades or anything. I have run Crackmem it removed the .cod files for the sample pics from the Java folder. I am running DM 4.7. I ran DM it updated my phone. What I am tryiing to figure out is why are the sample pics still on my phone? Any advice.
If you do not dump those files before doing the upgrade for the FIRST TIME, then those pix remain for some reason. Some folks get the app mem increase but the pix remain. Try this again with the next OS release and I'm sure you'll see that they will be gone.

Also, killing the internet connection makes a world of difference, for real.
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