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Old 04-26-2009, 07:29 PM
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I have a small request. I know it's an extra step but this needs to be done before you blame an OS for your poor battery life even if that's the only thing you've changed.

If/When you upgrade your OS and you're experiencing poor battery life, please attempt a clean install of the OS (no extra 3rd party apps) and see where your battery life is with NOTHING else on the phone except the OS.

I know this sounds like a pain in the ***, but I've found that apps cause way more battery life issues than the OS itself. If you still have issues then I don't know what to tell you other than re-install, but in my experience the OS by itself is rarely the issue (more than a single % or so an hour).

Slowly re-install your apps over time and see which one triggers your battery rape and hold of installing it til the next build (or a new version of that software releases).

My $.02

edit: I've done the above on all builds and found the culprit app and removed it. After that I've never been able to pull less than 36-48 hours minimum between charges (usually dies on the 3rd to 4th day under moderate data and web browsing (75-125 msgs/day) use but light voice (30min to an hour/day)).

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edit2: My settings for those who care to try and replicate them:

Backlight Brightness: 10% (unless in direct sunlight, I rarely have an issue seeing the screen @ this level. Although I do have a MFG CANADA model which I've heard are brighter than the Mexico MFG ones). This is a HUGE drain on battery saver. (Verified on several of my friends' models that canada builds do in fact have brighter screens than mexico builds for some reason)

Backlight timeout: 30s (self explanatory)

GPS Location: On (this shouldn't affect you unless you're one who leaves BB Maps open or Google maps in the background or dial 911 or something else that demands location be found. That or the government is after you and trying to track your phone )

Mobile network selection: Global (if you're in an area where CDMA signals are weak/spotty, and the phone might attempt to switch to GSM, i suggest you switch this off. Conversely, your battery will suck anyway in weak CDMA areas as the phone will struggle to reach a signal anyway...)

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edit 3: The reason most people experience severe battery drain outside screen brightness, is when an app is holding your data connection open or checking too often for updates (see: weather apps, gps downloading maps as you move around, etc). Check your update settings on these apps to have them update hourly or manually instead for best results.

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With the above settings I get 3, almost 4, days under the usage I stated above.
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I would add that ANY and ALL claims about battery life during the first 2-3 days on a new OS need to be tossed out.

If after a week, you are still seeing degraded performance, then MAYBE you have something to talk about.
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So what was the bad app?
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So what was the bad app?
my most surprising one was gmail sometime back in the sub 100 builds. even without me loading the program once post battery pull, it was causing the issue. the next build that came out like 3 days later solved the issue. 'twas odd
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Every OS has bad battery life thread until a week or two after its been leaked. That's just the pattern I've been seeing.

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Put me firmly in the camp of "There is no such thing as a battery issue with any os."

It makes no sense. But mos things with the storm make no sense.
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36-48 hours battery life? I am getting nowhere near that.... Of course I may be misunderstanding what you call moderate data and web use. I do a LOT of web browsing and my phone has to be on the charger by the end of the day.

Msg send/receieve doesn't draw it down much and I don't talk much on it.

You mentioned gps.. I though somebody said it always runs in the background so I have mine set to 911.

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I agree that it's not an OS issue, I have tried most builds out there and have never had any problems with battery life.
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on every build i have to charge daily, if not by 5pm, and that is with the day starting anywhere between 6 and 9am! 6 to 5 was what i got last monday on .122. my friend on BES who uses some BBM and LOTS of email, (BES is always pinging, checking for updates, so like almost constant data connection) he gets a few days of battery life. but i think his was like the 4th device RIM made, they contracted santa's elves to build the test storm hardware. like little swiss watches that have BBM and email!
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the 2 biggest draws on battery are screen brightness and signal strength. i'll let you guess which you can control...
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You mentioned gps.. I though somebody said it always runs in the background so I have mine set to 911.

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GPS is only active in the background if something is accessing it. otherwise the instant you loaded GMaps it'd know where you were... but alas, has to aquire sats. which means it was off.
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I did a clean install yesterday because of memory leak and haven't noticed any big difference. I'm on .131 and have no extra apps installed other than MeterBerry and Capture It. I installed App World but deleted it after it dumped 21MB of memory

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I did a clean install yesterday because of memory leak and haven't noticed any big difference. I'm on .131 and have no extra apps installed other than MeterBerry and Capture It. I installed App World but deleted it after it dumped 21MB of memory

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But this thread is about battery.... Not memory...

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Back when .85 and .90 released I had battery issues with both. I'd go from 100% to full discharge in under 8 hours.

I did a full wipe/clean install with no 3rd party apps, and the problem went away. I then loaded my 3rd party apps one by one until I found the culprit (Weatherbug).

I now avoid that app, and my battery life has been perfect! Anyway, I am also of the opinion that there's no battery drain issue with any of the OS.

Think about it: Everyone who upgrades does so only one of two ways (full wipe/clean install and install over). We have the same hardware and same OS. YET, only a handful of the masses (relatively speaking) have battery issues. The only remaining variable is the quantity and configuration of everyone's 3rd party apps.

That being said...Ockham's Razor FTW!!!

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guess that idea dont make much sense to me... if you have great battery life.. then install a new OS and change NOTHING.. same apps, same settings and the battery is much worse... why would that be the apps? When your running the same ones??

One thing i do agree with, i think it is the signal strenth and the radio... I loaded .132 from .75 last week... i did have .122 but whent back to .75 ( to be honest .75 on all three of my storms have been great.... and before some asks "three storms" ... me wife daughter)... i went back to .75 last night.. yes the battery was worse but was willing to see if it got better... but i spent the weekend with my wifes phone and mine with me.. her phone for the most part stayed on full signal bars... mine on .132 all ove the place..constantly dropping to no signal, to two bars, three bars to full.. NEVER stayed in one spot. Constant flucuation. My wife on .75 steady as a rock.

When i missed a couple calls saturday due to no signal, i went back to .75 and will wait for verizon to get RIM to do it right, i love this phone..but first and foremost it has to work as a phone for me.

on .132 i had to recharge by 2pm ( take off charger at 4am) and constant loos of signal

back on .75 on saturday, full signal... battery off charger 4 am at 9:30 pm saturday at 85%... same apps, same settings.. so to me.. it is the OS, or the radio in that OS.. and since that is part of the OS.. it is the OS problem..
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