BES on BIS Plan

[jonp]

Is this possible?...

I have a BIS plan.

I just switched to a company that uses BES and doesn't allow email forwarding so I have to switch to BES to get emails to show on my bb.

I installed DM as though I have BES and I can get emails as they come through on my bb as long as it is connected via USB to the laptop and I'm on the company's LAN or VPNed in - Enterprise Activation worked over DM.

When I try to activate Enterprise Activation OTA with the email/password the IT department gave me it ends up retrying 3 times and tells me to contact my IT department.
I have the service books for BIS and Desktop BES, but not OTA BES - if that makes a difference.
(https://www.wireless.att.com/support...B/KB49057.html)

Is there any way that I can get activated on my company's server OTA? I was able to do it via DM so I'm hoping...

Any suggestions on how I might be able to activate it would be greatly appreciated!

[labphoto]

You will need to get the BES service for your Blackberry in order to get connected OTA with the BES server.

[bt224]

Not possible. Check with your IT concerning activation.

[xkon]

On Rogers and Telus here in Canada no BES plan = no BES activation. You can go through the desktop manager but the BB cant reach the BES server. No way around that that i know of, aside from a new plan!

[LondoJowo]

BES can't be activated from BIS plan. If you company has Outlook Web Access you can configure an email account.

[jonp]

Originally Posted by LondoJowo

BES can't be activated from BIS plan. If you company has Outlook Web Access you can configure an email account.

Thanks everyone for your input - I guess I'll hold out as long as I can...

Also, there is OWA here but it requires an RSA token which keeps changing so I don't think I can set that up to work

Thanks again!

[craigvalk]

Originally Posted by jonp

Thanks everyone for your input - I guess I'll hold out as long as I can...

Also, there is OWA here but it requires an RSA token which keeps changing so I don't think I can set that up to work

Thanks again!

I'd go nuts having to enter a token code everytime I needed to access work email. My company is BES only so I got the BES plan from ATT, which is more expensive than the BIS.

[labphoto]

Looks like BES on Roger's is damn expensive with no choice for unlimited data:

New Rogers BES plans coming October 1st | BlackBerry Cool

[CurlyFatAngry]

What exactly is a BIS plan? I don't remember seeing BES plans on the Rogers site, or is it just the regular data plans?

[labphoto]

BIS = Blackberry Internet Service
BES = Blackberry Enterprise Service

With BIS the Blackberry gets its email only from your service provider like AT&T

With BES the Blackberry gets its email, contacts, notes and calendar from a company's Blackberry server and not the service provider. Many times the service provider can deliver other email as well. The enterprise server will deliver the email as it happens while BiS depends on the email source. Gmail is usually delivered as it happens other POP3 has a delay from a couple of minutes to as long as 15 minutes.

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[alexfair]

Yeah when i was running the BES at my work, i could never get a blackberry to activate with out BES services from the carrier.

[cwaite500]

I've activated over a hundres BBs ota. No carrier BES on the account, don't even bother trying. Just remember that if its your personall BB, as soon as you activate on a BES server, they own your BB as far as phone security and messaging goes and can remote wipe, lock, etc your phone any time. They can also block you from doing certain things via IT policies. They own your BB. That's the power of the BES server over regular BIS. When you remove BES later, you will need to wipe your phone to completely remove the BES activation and regain complete ownership of your phone again.
Good luck.

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[thedirective]

Originally Posted by cwaite500

I've activated over a hundres BBs ota. No carrier BES on the account, don't even bother trying. Just remember that if its your personall BB, as soon as you activate on a BES server, they own your BB as far as phone security and messaging goes and can remote wipe, lock, etc your phone any time. They can also block you from doing certain things via IT policies. They own your BB. That's the power of the BES server over regular BIS. When you remove BES later, you will need to wipe your phone to completely remove the BES activation and regain complete ownership of your phone again.
Good luck.

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so true
i work for the British security service and they require BB users to enter an alphanumeric code to read each email, sms, mms, media card, camera, bbm, pin and all applications are blocked or not in use.

VERY IRRITATING

thank god for my personal BOLD

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[JasW]

Originally Posted by thedirective

so true
i work for the British security service and they require BB users to enter an alphanumeric code to read each email, sms, mms, media card, camera, bbm, pin and all applications are blocked or not in use.

VERY IRRITATING

thank god for my personal BOLD

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Mind you, not all companies have such draconian IT policies, which are eminently malleable. I have never once run into a situation where I've been restricted from doing something because of my firm's BES IT policies.

[thedirective]

Originally Posted by JasW

Mind you, not all companies have such draconian IT policies, which are eminently malleable. I have never once run into a situation where I've been restricted from doing something because of my firm's BES IT policies.

all i can say is that you are a lucky man mate. THE gov IT officials here in uk are tight bastards

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