Proof that VZW advertised the 8830 with GPS

[BrianFeinzimer]

Here is the proof, it is listed at one of the highlight features...so who thinking class action?

I have the entire thing so if we need anything else scanned...also I'm posting this to BlackBerryForums, PinStack, HowardForums and CrackBerry so cross-ref links follow:

BlackBerryForums: Proof that VZW advertised the 8830 with GPS - BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community
PinStack: Proof that VZW advertised the 8830 with GPS - RIM Blackberry Forums - Pinstack.com
HowardForums: HowardForums: Your Mobile Phone Community & Resource - Proof that VZW advertised the 8830 with GPS

[dillyyo]

Well, that maybe interpreted in the legal rhelm as it does come with "built-in GPS", but is just not functional through the Verizon network at this time. I would then proceed to make the argument that it could be deemed as deceitful advertising to an unacceptable level. Whether thats a realistic legal argument, I have no idea.

[Trevor]

Class action baby! I am going to have to snatch up one of these quick so I can get $2.17 back when the lawyers settle their suit and collect their ginormous* legal fee.

Seriously though, maybe that refers to a future service. It only seems fitting that a "world device" would come with a GPS. Also, it says coming soon. Maybe they are referring to the new gps-enabled version.



* Just in case their are any English Professors/Teachers among us, ginormous is now a real word. Check for yourself.

[JRSCCivic98]

Originally Posted by Trevor

* Just in case their are any English Professors/Teachers among us, ginormous is now a real word. Check for yourself.

As of 2007 it is...
Merriam-Webster Online

Also, RIM should also be brought into this lawsuit for failure to "stand behind it's product as a manufacturer". RIM's failure to deny VZW's request to disable GPS directly underminds the public's trust in their products. If we can't trust a manufacturer to release products with all "documented" capabilities entact how can we trust their licensed resellers. RIM accepted and implemented the request from VZW to disable the autonomours GPS in the phone. Not cool.

[dillyyo]

another legal angle would be that the phone DOES have the GPS capability, but only for 911 emergency purposes. So, technically the advertisement would be accurate. Proving the deceptive aspect would be a much tougher job.

[trinston]

Hmmm... I just sent out an email to Verizon with a full list of documented examples of their deception and lies with regard to the GPS situation and I included this. It's such a sketchy situation. As you guys have mentioned, it says built-in GPS - functional appears to be a different thing. True, it has a GPS, but there is probably no legal problem with advertising it with future plans to activate it. They better release a patch soon with the enabled GPS for everyone to use. I think the legal aspect depends on who you ask. If there is a clear pattern of this misleading advertising, then there could be a case for class action.

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[JRSCCivic98]

Originally Posted by dillyyo

another legal angle would be that the phone DOES have the GPS capability, but only for 911 emergency purposes. So, technically the advertisement would be accurate. Proving the deceptive aspect would be a much tougher job.

Incorrect. They cannot use this to depict E911 GPS because no other phone they sell is listed as "Built in GPS" to depict E911 GPS even though all the phones any carrier sells has E911 GPS capabilities due to FCC mandate. This is different.

[JRSCCivic98]

Originally Posted by trinston

Hmmm... I just sent out an email to Verizon with a full list of documented examples of their deception and lies with regard to the GPS situation and I included this. It's such a sketchy situation. As you guys have mentioned, it says built-in GPS - functional appears to be a different thing. True, it has a GPS, but there is probably no legal problem with advertising it with future plans to activate it. They better release a patch soon with the enabled GPS for everyone to use. I think the legal aspect depends on who you ask. If there is a clear pattern of this misleading advertising, then there could be a case for class action.

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I don't even think it's a matter of advertising anymore. VZW is in the habbit of crippling phone capabilities for financial gain. That alone is where my problem with them is. I could care less if it's false advertising, but this constant stripping of features for their own financial gain is BS! That's the think that we need to stop VZW from getting away with. No other carrier.... I'll say it again, NO OTHER CARRIER does this sort of stuff, what makes VZW think that it can get away with it. They have gotten away with these tactics for far too long.

[ibmman69]

has anyone filed a complaint with the BBB?

[JRSCCivic98]

Here's an interesting read. Seems that even the cell phone manufacturers are getting sick and tired of the carriers and their BS strategies. Please read this... it's very interesting.

Cell Service Providers Get A Wake-Up Call From Business Users - Technology News by TechWeb

[Trevor]

I wish they would just make it like a feature that you could pay exta for. Say like $50 and it would be unlocked. Ideal would be free, but Verizon would never do that.

[saukrateaz]

From what I have read, I believe Verizon was originally going to offer GPS enabled on the 8830 but then changed the flow of things and wanted to charge for it. Since so many other carriers were not charging for it they decided to not offer it all.

[JRSCCivic98]

I know it's crossposted, but it's important. Hammer this guy's phone!!! They'll get the message soon enough.

CALL GARY PAUL, FROM VERIZON EXECUTIVE OFFICES OF VERIZON WIRELESS, AT 240-568-2186. TELL HIM ABOUT THE GPS PROBLEM AND THAT WE WANT IT WORKING

[trinston]

Call and threaten a class action lawsuit. I will start a class action lawsuit if they don't fix this issue, no lie. Call this guy and explain the problem and tell him that unless they fix the problem, we will file a class action lawsuit. If we all call, we might get some leverage.

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[saukrateaz]

You cant sue them for something they never offered you. Wether it is available through other carriers or not, the device was never put out to market with the GPS enabled. Had it been enabled and they just decided to disable it without knowledge, then fine you have a case provided you bought it specifically for the GPS. It is a well known fact that verizon has disabled this feature. If you want it that bad move to another carrier because this is not the first, last, or only device that verizon has disabled these features. Calling them will do nothing except entice them to charge for it because there will be such a high demand.