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Ok folks, been trying to work on this for days now and I just cannot figure it out.

I included this image to help explain what I want to do, the image isn't exactly what I am working on, but, it is an easy representation



Basically what I want is user defined icons in a circular pattern. Notice how the bottom one is upside down and the two sides are turned on a 90. And what I want to do is rotate the whole layer so that when icon 2 is focused on, it will be on the top section where icon 1 was.

Here is what I have figured out so far. I can rotate the layer to get from icon 1 to 2 to 3 to 4, but not back with out it gettin all screwy looking, so basically I can only rotate it one way to the last icon and it look right, but not back or from 4 to 3 to 2 to 1.

My other problem is the user defined icons. This isn't as important, but has anyone figured out how to set them so that they actually show up the way i want them here. After I export, load into theme builder, and run on simulator - the icons are right side up, and remain that way when the layer rotates from one icon to the next (to picture it, it looks like a ferris wheel)

this is driving me nuts!!

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Ok folks, been trying to work on this for days now and I just cannot figure it out.

I included this image to help explain what I want to do, the image isn't exactly what I am working on, but, it is an easy representation



Basically what I want is user defined icons in a circular pattern. Notice how the bottom one is upside down and the two sides are turned on a 90. And what I want to do is rotate the whole layer so that when icon 2 is focused on, it will be on the top section where icon 1 was.

Here is what I have figured out so far. I can rotate the layer to get from icon 1 to 2 to 3 to 4, but not back with out it gettin all screwy looking, so basically I can only rotate it one way to the last icon and it look right, but not back or from 4 to 3 to 2 to 1.

My other problem is the user defined icons. This isn't as important, but has anyone figured out how to set them so that they actually show up the way i want them here. After I export, load into theme builder, and run on simulator - the icons are right side up, and remain that way when the layer rotates from one icon to the next (to picture it, it looks like a ferris wheel)

this is driving me nuts!!

HELP!!!!!!
Yes this is possible but requires more advanced SVG code than I can explain...PM your svg so I can see what you have and I will try to make the necessary corections for you and send it back...By default the icons will stay facing down you have to add some code in there to tell them to rotate the icons as you rotate the layer..This is another AnimateTransform function, called rotate is that what are you useing or are you just using X,Y coordinates with a Jscrool code?..I was working on a theme a little while ago where I was trying to do this on a much larger scale, Im not finished yet but I think I solve what your trying to do...I took a break from it...I was working on 10-20icons in a much larger circle and it was giving me a lot of problems...I think I was just exceeding what the BB can recognize....I was going way off the screen with mine...

You can do a google search for "SVG Reference for Blackberry" it will tell you all the functions you can use in SVG...
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Yes this is possible but requires more advanced SVG code than I can explain...PM your svg so I can see what you have and I will try to make the necessary corections for you and send it back...By default the icons will stay facing down you have to add some code in there to tell them to rotate the icons as you rotate the layer..This is another AnimateTransform function, called rotate is that what are you useing or are you just using X,Y coordinates with a Jscrool code?..I was working on a theme a little while ago where I was trying to do this on a much larger scale, Im not finished yet but I think I solve what your trying to do...I took a break from it...I was working on 10-20icons in a much larger circle and it was giving me a lot of problems...I think I was just exceeding what the BB can recognize....I was going way off the screen with mine...

You can do a google search for "SVG Reference for Blackberry" it will tell you all the functions you can use in SVG...
No, not using the jscroll code, at least I haven't though of using that kind of code for this, but no, I am trying to figure out the rotate code. I am missing something. Like I said, I can get it to rotate one way, but not rotate back the other. And I am working with the animatetransform - rotate code. Looking over that svg reference guide, I wonder if I am doing it wrong. Anyway, I don't have a working model, just been doing random tests to see if I could get it, but if you could send me a text file with just the code to make the layer rotate the proper way, I can apply it and make whatever changes needed. Also, as far as the icons, you say you have figured out how to make the "user defined icons" actually face upside down and stay that way when the layer rotates. I appreciate the help, by the way. You don't have to put the work in on my svg, I can do it, I know how it is. Anyway, if you would be willing to send me a text file, or even a image of the code you use to move the layer would be fine. You can pm me, or even email me if you want at holster27@vzw.blackberry.net. Also, this is my website, Andy's Blackberry Themes - Custom Themes for Your Blackberry Phone , and if you see something you think I can help you with in return, please just let me know. I am not a heavy member here, but I am at Pinstack, and I certainly don't mind giving a hand when needed.

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Weldmonkey, is that a no go on not giving the code to me instead, if so I understand? I could mock up the theme that is in the picture and you can apply it to that if you want. Thought it would be easier on you the other way. Don't matter up to you, I'm the one needing the help.
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Weldmonkey, is that a no go on not giving the code to me instead, if so I understand? I could mock up the theme that is in the picture and you can apply it to that if you want. Thought it would be easier on you the other way. Don't matter up to you, I'm the one needing the help.
Still working on it...Im getting the same results for some reason...and the rotation isnt as round as it should be since I have it all spaced right..also I think the biggest problem is only haveing 4 Icons...Im working on a 8 icon version for you...However still working the bugs out...Im not sure this will work on rotate, but I have a few other tricks I can try besides rotate that will hopefully get the same results...just give me a little time...Ive been playing with it for the last 4 hours...I think Im done for today...

Im also having the same issues with it automatically rotating all the images down...aka how they always look...this is definitly a default setting in the BB OS, or a bug BB hasnt thought about yet...it doesnt matter how I rotate them in composer...Its probly only because they are Theme Buttons using app order...if they were defined icons they would probly keep the rotation settings set up in Theme builder, but who the heck wants something the end user can customize a little...

The funny part about that is if I set up the rotation to do what you want composer puts the code there, but the simulator just wont do it...but it did result in a file that is about 30kb bigger than if I dont setup the rotation on the icons...go figure extra code it wont use right..useless...

Hopefully can come with something soon for you...keep playing with it...if you figure something out before I do, please let me know..
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Still working on it...Im getting the same results for some reason...and the rotation isnt as round as it should be since I have it all spaced right..also I think the biggest problem is only haveing 4 Icons...Im working on a 8 icon version for you...However still working the bugs out...Im not sure this will work on rotate, but I have a few other tricks I can try besides rotate that will hopefully get the same results...just give me a little time...Ive been playing with it for the last 4 hours...I think Im done for today...

Im also having the same issues with it automatically rotating all the images down...aka how they always look...this is definitly a default setting in the BB OS, or a bug BB hasnt thought about yet...it doesnt matter how I rotate them in composer...Its probly only because they are Theme Buttons using app order...if they were defined icons they would probly keep the rotation settings set up in Theme builder, but who the heck wants something the end user can customize a little...

The funny part about that is if I set up the rotation to do what you want composer puts the code there, but the simulator just wont do it...but it did result in a file that is about 30kb bigger than if I dont setup the rotation on the icons...go figure extra code it wont use right..useless...

Hopefully can come with something soon for you...keep playing with it...if you figure something out before I do, please let me know..
Appreciate the effort. Still working on it. Yeah, same thing with the icons. I tried putting the transform rotate thing on everypossible place in the svg to get the icon to rotate, but with no luck. I also noticed that if in composer you set up an icon that is user defined to "Shrink" or "Grow" when focusin or focusout, that doesn't work either. Apparently, any physical change of appearance to it just won't work except for importing smaller images or larger images as the default icon in composer. But if you want it to start small and then grow and shrink, no go.

I keep thinking I have seen a rotation theme out there. I was really hoping KD would spread the wealth, because I think he is using this "rotation" think in his xCite theme. It's got that little round ball that spins around to each icon, and I feel that is how he is doing that, but not sure. I pm'd him but with no luck.
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Hey, not that this is exactly what I wanted to do with what we are talking about, but check out this theme I am working on that is on a similar wavelength.

YouTube - firefox theme
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YouTube - firefox theme
That look really good...did you a use a motion path to do that with??
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That look really good...did you a use a motion path to do that with??
Actually, used 2 paths together, rotate and translate paths.

Had to make it work with a sequence for each individual icon, put each icon in its own layer and made a <seq> with rotate than a translate to follow. Had to do it for each layer and also do it for the return motion as well.

However, i can't see how I can apply what i did with that one and use it the one we are trying to figure out.
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Actually, used 2 paths together, rotate and translate paths.

Had to make it work with a sequence for each individual icon, put each icon in its own layer and made a <seq> with rotate than a translate to follow. Had to do it for each layer and also do it for the return motion as well.

However, i can't see how I can apply what i did with that one and use it the one we are trying to figure out.
no no, there is an animatetransform function called MotionPath its way you can move an animation along a predetermined path...I havent played with it much yet...instead of telling it rotate x amount of degress we may be able to make a circle with an animation path to it group the icons to the circle make the circle invisible and rotate the circle...or that might even work with the rotate function...
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I dont suppose I can talk you into PMing me the svg for that theme for reference purposes, can I?

I probly wont get much of a chance to play with this rotate idea again until next week...I really want to get my theme up on here...I set a release date of 6/22 on it and I still have a few hours of work left...but if I get frustrated with mine I will probly mess with this some more...
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I dont suppose I can talk you into PMing me the svg for that theme for reference purposes, can I?

I probly wont get much of a chance to play with this rotate idea again until next week...I really want to get my theme up on here...I set a release date of 6/22 on it and I still have a few hours of work left...but if I get frustrated with mine I will probly mess with this some more...
I can pm you the svg file so you can see the text I used. Inputted everything about the animation in notepad, did nothing in composer. This "motionpath" I am assuming you have to atleast set up the path in composer, correct?
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PM didn't work, I will just attach it here, maybe this will work better, here is the file in txt format.

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Hey weldmonkey, hope you see this, any luck at all with what we were working on. I have gotten no further yet.
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NO I honestly havent had much time to play with it...Ive been working on my theme and getting ready to go on Vacation...I have gotten pretty close though with an 8 Icon version...but I always get to that one last Icon that wants to spin the whole thing all over the place and not work right..put you know what I had the same kind of issue first few times I made the scrool SVG in my theme then one day it just hit me and I was like DUH!! Im sure Ill get it...Im so close I can taste it...lol...to be honest I probly wont get much chance to play with it untill sometime in the middle of July...Im just pretty busy till then...
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