BES 10 vs. ActiveSync
So with the recent launch of the BlackBerry Z10, there has been a lot of confusion around the need for BIS/BES services on BB10. That article cleared up a couple things for me, but has also left me confused about others.
What I want to know, is as an enterprise user, how will the end-user experience differ if I chose to use ActivySync versus BES 10? I'm currently on a hosted Exchange/BES plan from GoDaddy (9900 w/OS 7.1), but I'm not sure if they have BES 10 servers yet. If I chose to just use ActiveSync (which I understand is possible with BB10), how will my experience differ?
Obviously I'll lose features such as Remote Wipe, but how will my email functionality differ (if at all).
GoDaddy support is useless. I've had 3 emails to them trying to clarify if/when they will be getting BES 10 servers. They insist they don't host the BES, and that my mobile provider does. It's like beating your head against a wall trying to deal with those idiots.
- 02-05-2013, 07:19 PM #4
I am currently in a similar situation. I use Google Apps and use bosted BES for Google Apps. My provider is ExchangeMyMail.com (they're customer service is great). I am doubting whether Google Apps will support BES10 and BB10 devices, and I am concerned ActiveSync will not sync emails, calendars and contacts as well as BES.
For now, I am waiting it out. TMO doesn't get Z10 until late March, and I really waiting on Q10 anyway, which may be April, so I have some time to see how BES10 and ActiveSync work.
My biggest fear is that ActiveSync will not like I want/need it to, thus forcing me to switch to hosted MS Exchange, from Google Apps, in order to take advantage of BES10.
- 02-06-2013, 05:55 AM #5
If I understand everything correctly, to take full advantage of the BB10, I should use BES. Can anyone recommend a hosted exchange that will support BB10 when it is released by Att. I run a non profit association, one email account with a 9900 and playbook. Will I need or should I get two licenses from Blackberry or does the bridge work for BES? Will I be able to move my email to an exchange but leave my website hosted as is or should I move both? All of this is coming out of my pocket so I want the best value for my money without causing problems for the association, also I need a company that offers good customer service because I will be attempting to set this up myself with no IT experience. Thank you!
- 02-06-2013, 11:56 AM #6
cajunberry, I've used ExchangeMyMail and have been satisfied with the service and their customer service has always been helpful. Other options would be Rackspace, or you could go directly through Microsoft with Office365.
I'm not sure how BB10 and Playbook will work together, but my 9900 and Playbook sync flawlessly with just the one license.
You can move your email hosting without having to move website hosting. My website and email are hosted by two different companies.
- 02-07-2013, 08:39 PM #8
It's my understanding Office 365, MS Exchange and BES/Blackberry work very well together. As for BB10, not so certain. Probably would want to wait and see how things shake out. If you use MS Office a lot, then Office 365 might be a good option.
So far I'm just using Exchange ActiveSync with my Z10. I haven't had any time to fart around with the phone since I got it on Tuesday. I might try to activate the BES through GoDaddy's portal today. I'll report back and let you know how it went (though I'm not hopeful).
I can say that Exchange ActiveSync seems to be working quite well for me so far. I know that Memos/Notes only sync over BES, so for that alone I want to activate the BES. Is it also true that battery life could improve if I'm using BES instead of ActiveSync?
- 02-09-2013, 01:24 PM #11
This is all very confusing! I have been reading and searching for a couple of days for some input into the BES - hosted exchange - BB10. No one has any information. I am willing to switch to BES but I would prefer to know that at some point the BB10 will be compatible with the exchange provider that I pick. I do not want to make two moves within a year. You would think that at least one company would be announcing we are working on BB10 compatibility.
Yeah, I'm very disapointed in BlackBerry for the lack of communication/clarity around BIS, BES, BESx, and ActiveSync. I just sent myself an enterprise activation password through GoDaddy's portal, but I can't even find the enterprise activation setting on my Z10. I asked Google but all that came up was a bunch of posts from others that are as confused as we seem to be. I don't expect my host to have BES 10 servers yet, but I should at least have the option on my device, should I not? By the way, below are my interactions with GoDaddy where I asked them about BES 10 support. It's quite commical:
Originally Posted by seanersOriginally Posted by GoDaddyOriginally Posted by seanersOriginally Posted by GoDaddyOriginally Posted by seanersOriginally Posted by GoDaddy
- 02-19-2013, 05:38 PM #16
I spoke to one hosted exchanged company regarding BES with Blackberry 10. Is the following true?
Company - "industry rumors say that they will include Active Sync on this new device which means you will not need the added BES license".
Me - "A couple of reasons for the BES plan. Pushed email, compression of data if it goes thru the blackberry network, ability to use the new balance features (separating work/personal data on phone)."
Company - " active sync does exactly what you listed that you love about the BES but it's free"
Does active sync - push, compress & allow the balance feature?
- 02-20-2013, 04:58 AM #17
If anyone is using email via a hosted Exchange (or other email co that offers Activesync) rather than a corporation that hosts its own email there is zero advantage to BDS/BES.
BDS basically is a way of secure tunneling into your network, an enabler of BB Balance if the policy is set on the BDS (which to be honest I may well turn off on our corporate BDS as it is so poorly implemented and confusing for the users we have trialled with - the same app installed twice in different places accessing an identical file structure, but with different files - try guessing where your camera pics go), plus some extra management features. Your email/calendar/etc sync is via Activesync no matter whether direct ActiveSync or via BDS. There is no extra compression any more.
I would imagine that most hosted Exchange co's won't bother with BDS and just continue offering ActiveSync only.
- 02-20-2013, 08:59 AM #18
This doesn't suggest that they are offering BDS (BES10) - just that they 'feature' ActiveSync.
- CrackBerry Abuser
02-24-2013, 06:06 PM #24
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Not sure it its relevant, but when I once added my playbook to a client's email running exchange, it activated BB balance. I don't believe I was on BES, but rather active sync. I could be mistaken, but that's what I thought .7250 -> 8703e -> 9530 -> 9550 -> 9650 -> 9930 -> PlayBook -> Z10 (STL100-4, 10.2)
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02-25-2013, 01:50 AM #25
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