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    Default Z3 Vs Z10! Which will be faster?

    I know that the processor on Z3 is relatively new compared to Z10 but since it's clocked at 1.2 Ghz, will the Z3 be much slower? Can Anyone having the Z10, do a benchmark test using geekbench and post the score here?, to compare it with the Z3's benchmark.
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    The Z10 has the quicker CPU.

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    sorry i don't really think you would notice unless you had them side by side...even then it would not be by much..
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    No benchmark scores to just compare?

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    I'm not sure but probably Z10 has the faster CPU and Z3 has the faster GPU.
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    Looks like the Z3 will be slow enough for criticism! Ull see.

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    Doesn't the Z3 only have 1.5GB RAM where as the Z10 has 2GB?

    That by itself should cause it to be a little slower, I would think.

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    Well the Z3 is 841 on multicore according to the Geekbench3 leak on an older OS version and you can see some Geekbench3 Z10 scores in the thread here where it looks like 900 range is normal and Z30 is in the 1200 range.

    I expect the Z3 to be every bit as fast in daily use as the Z10.

    Note that Geekbench2 scores are much higher compared to Geekbench3 for the same device so don't compare them directly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan OZKAYA View Post
    I'm not sure but probably Z10 has the faster CPU and Z3 has the faster GPU.
    The Z10 has quicker cpu and gpu, as well as more memory. It is the quicker device. By exactly how much is debatable at this stage, but specs don't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deckard79 View Post
    The Z10 has quicker cpu and gpu, as well as more memory. It is the quicker device. By exactly how much is debatable at this stage, but specs don't lie.

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    Considering the number of pixels which the Adreno 305 will render (768*1280 vs 960*540), z3 may be faster, but I must admit that I forgot to check the memory interface, which is the bottleneck. Adreno 305 has a disadvantage here, since it's aiming low to mid end devices and paired with weaker cpus. Anyway, we'll soon see.
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    Nvm, CB mangled it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan OZKAYA View Post
    check the memory interface, which is the bottleneck.
    DDR2...not the fastest by any means, but actually at a higher frequency than the Z10.
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    I'm quite sure the performance for Z10 vs. Z3 can be compared to Q10 vs. Q5. However the little QWERTY still has the full 2gigs of RAM, while the cheaper full-touch only offers 1.5gigs. I still think it will be enough for decent operation, but it will be more critical than the slower CPU.

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    Z10 will be faster because it has 4G

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrone smith3 View Post
    Z10 will be faster because it has 4G

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    I didn't ask about its network speed.
    Anyways I think the Z3 is faster than the Z10 STL100-1 but a tad slower than the other versions.

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    The Z3 will be slower, but most likely only if you have a lot of apps running in the background.

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    The z3 will be faster because the z10 spends most of its life switched off due to poor battery performance.

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    The Z10 has a 1.5GhZ processor and so will the Z3 more than likely


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    The z10 has an msm8960 with adreno 225, the z3 has an msm8230 witb adreno 305. Both cpus have dual core kraits, so should be comparable. The 8230 has 533mhz ddr2, the 8960 has 500mhz. The 225 supports wuxga (1920x1200), the 305 only qhd (960x540).

    So, the z3 has sligbtly faster RAM (7%), but slower CPU (20%). It has a slower GPU with lower resolution. Programs normally run from cache, but data goes to RAM. You would expect to z10 to be at least 13% faster, up to 20% faster in Some cases. Graphics is much of a muchness, smaller res vs faster gpu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vader42 View Post
    The z10 has an msm8960 with adreno 225, the z3 has an msm8230 witb adreno 305. Both cpus have dual core kraits, so should be comparable. The 8230 has 533mhz ddr2, the 8960 has 500mhz. The 225 supports wuxga (1920x1200), the 305 only qhd (960x540).

    So, the z3 has sligbtly faster RAM (7%), but slower CPU (20%). It has a slower GPU with lower resolution. Programs normally run from cache, but data goes to RAM. You would expect to z10 to be at least 13% faster, up to 20% faster in Some cases. Graphics is much of a muchness, smaller res vs faster gpu.

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    I thought adreno 305 was faster than 225 :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by vader42 View Post
    The z10 has an msm8960 with adreno 225, the z3 has an msm8230 witb adreno 305. Both cpus have dual core kraits, so should be comparable. The 8230 has 533mhz ddr2, the 8960 has 500mhz. The 225 supports wuxga (1920x1200), the 305 only qhd (960x540).

    So, the z3 has sligbtly faster RAM (7%), but slower CPU (20%). It has a slower GPU with lower resolution. Programs normally run from cache, but data goes to RAM. You would expect to z10 to be at least 13% faster, up to 20% faster in Some cases. Graphics is much of a muchness, smaller res vs faster gpu.

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    720p has already been confirmed for the z3, so your resolution spec is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJF84 View Post
    720p has already been confirmed for the z3, so your resolution spec is wrong.

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    There has been no confirmation of the resolution of the Z3. The screen size is the same 5" as the Z30 and the aspect ratio is the same 16:9. Nothing about resolution has been confirmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeo007 View Post
    There has been no confirmation of the resolution of the Z3. The screen size is the same 5" as the Z30 and the aspect ratio is the same 16:9. Nothing about resolution has been confirmed.
    Ok, come back once you've found it.

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    Got the graphics specs from the snapdragon site. I couldn't find anything stating differences in DMIPS/MHz, so, assuming we are running a benchmark mostly from cache (rather than constantly reading RAM), you would expect the Z10 to be 1.5/1.2 (1.25) times faster. In the real world, we use ram, so the 25% decreases to something like 20%.

    At the end of the day, unless you have both devices in front of you, you probably won't notice much difference. The same can be said for the Z30 vs Z10. It is about 13% faster in CPU, but has a much faster GPU. I could only notice the difference when they were side by side.

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