- CrackBerry User
12-22-2012, 11:36 PM #102
- 24 Posts
Quite frankly, we don't know what are the final specs and price of the Z10, so I think it's wise to argue only after we get that info ! We also don't know what it's battery life will be like as well as it's performance compared to other devices !!!
- CrackBerry Genius
12-23-2012, 12:12 AM #103
- 1,802 Posts
I said the dual core Snapdragon S4 powers ultra low end phones now and it does. Google it.
You can say whatever you want, but the dual core S4 does indeed power entry level smartphones now. That is a easily proven fact. Free on contract phones use the Snapdragon S4. Re-read that last sentence. I don't care what other phones use it. The fact remains, that the S4 now powers a few of the cheapest, low-end smartphones available today. Did it make sense that time or are you still confused about it?
Just because Sony, Nokia and HTC are still pimping the dual core S4 doesn't change the fact that other manufactures slap that same CPU in their cheapest devices. How well are Sony, Nokia and HTC doing in the smartphone business again?
- CrackBerry Addict
12-23-2012, 12:41 AM #104
- 652 Posts
I get your point on price point but I have something for you to consider. It's all about the operating system and the engine running under it. The iPhone is smooth and their os runs smooth on older devices. Sure the OS itself may leave a lot to be desired but you can't deny the great ux those devices offer. Another example is WP. They ran on single cores and we're incredibly smooth and fluid devices, but their specs couldn't compare to top androids yet the "Smoked by Windows Phone challenge" was a success as far as the results go. And to conclude, just what about the specs are not high end enough? By launch its gonna have a screen top ten in pixel density, best html5 scores, based on the 4G lte playbook's benchmarks you could a bb10 device to have best in class benchmarks, great features, smooth experience, 1080p video output, and a decent battery. The special sheets have been leaked enough that I don't want to go down the list but the specs are definitely on par with current flagship phones. Oh and if you want the specs to compete against the GSIV, iPhone 5s, HTC X ++, the new razrs, new nexus, new wp phones, and other 2013 flagships, the Aristotle will be there competing neck and neck spec wise.
- 12-23-2012, 02:46 AM #107
It's all good though. Since BB10 is so efficient, it doesn't need the extra power boost from Cortex A-15.
- 12-23-2012, 03:03 AM #109
The Z10 has very similar hardware to the Xiaomi 1S, which sells for about $240 for 1.7Ghz, or $210 for 1.5Ghz.
- 12-23-2012, 03:10 AM #110
Nexus 4, SGS3, Xiaomi, SGS4, Sony Xperia, LG, HTC <-- All Android devices mentioned.
And we all know iOS runs on minimal hardware because of how the OS is built. Only recently has Apple been more forthcoming with their use of spec terms.
In the end, it's a pretty simple scenario. If you don't like it.. don't buy it.
Windows phone is not taking off anytime soon and Iphone, well your pretty much stuck with it. Iphone users do complain about specs but still continue to buy it anyways, not because its good, but because the have this mind set that no other phone works. I didnt mention apps since I assume RIM was going to take care of that when they released the developer units and pushed hard on selling BB10. For the last time specs can a do matter. Just because windows 7 runs just fine on a Athlon 64, doesn't mean im going to trade in my current desktop for it. Basically what your saying is that its OK to have last years hardware simply because the OS is streamlined.
- 12-23-2012, 03:31 AM #112
- 12-23-2012, 03:34 AM #113
If you really want to get down to the nitty gritty, do you really think RIM isn't aware of that? The Z10 was built out 2012..it was supposed to release in 2012.. that's why the specs are what they are. If it upsets you THAT much, wait 6-7 months.
You can say it a million times over, complain about it a million times over but it's not going to change anything at this stage. The devices are built, awaiting shipment and locked down.
Android turn four, hits 75% market share | News | TechRadar
Tell me again how you were saying to not compare it to Android phones. Android doesn't have to worry about market share so they compete over specs. RIM is in a good position to win some of the market back, but not with over priced hardware. If specs don't matter to you then so be it. Nothing I can say will a change that. I will admit that I was wrong in starting a thread about unconfirmed specs. I was just a little taken aback when the specs were listed on CB. They seem shoddy for a phone that we all know RIM will put a nice huge price tag on.
- 12-23-2012, 03:52 AM #116
- 12-23-2012, 04:01 AM #121
Specs matter because that's the what the sale staff will push the devices with. Most lay people have no idea what differentiates the various platforms, and what makes one better than another, and sales staff will find phone specs much easier to explain. It's much easier to explain how 1.7Ghz is better than 1.2Ghz than trying to explain how something like Peek works. Even a non-techie can easily understand a quad core is better is better than a dual core. If a smartphone newbie sees one phone with a dual core, and another with quad core, both at the same price.... it's a much easier decision to just go with the quad core.
Perhaps specs don't matter to the general usability of a phone, but to the customer, they matter, because it's what differentiates them.
- 12-23-2012, 04:10 AM #122
Most people just wanna know one thing. "So... am I gonna see that damn black clock any more?" lol.
- 12-23-2012, 04:17 AM #123
Even in China, you can't get a Xiaomi 2 phone if you wanted to. It's a small company, about 3 million units sold in twelve months spanning 2011-2012. It's sold out and the waitlist is months long. Although some people think the shortage is artificial. I haven't been able to confirm either way.
- 12-23-2012, 04:20 AM #124
(Good chattin fells, peace out though -- bed time. Have a happy holidays)
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