- 02-03-13, 07:17 AM #27
OK so Nexus didn't sell a lot even though it was a "sell out"
Just like it doesn't mean there were a ton of sales, it doesn't mean there weren't. Time will tell.
But it does create a buzz that may be helpful in the US launch. Knowing it sold out in the UK and hopefully Canada should create additional interest here (IMO of course).
Plus I would love to be able to mention to all of folks who have been telling me "Blackberry is dead" etc. that it sold out on initial release. :-)
- 02-03-13, 07:25 AM #28
The Z10 on the other hand is due purely to demand.
- 02-03-13, 07:33 AM #29
Either way, the next month looks like it's going to need a busy time for BlackBerry.
- 02-03-13, 08:19 AM #30
- 02-03-13, 09:14 AM #31
Makes me start to worry that the US release may be delayed to meet current demand. Maybe that's why US OEMs are not releasing dates.
- 02-03-13, 09:27 AM #32
Re: Z10 sold out in all stores in the uk!!!
The good thing to me is the fact that it sold out, regardless of the total number. At least nobody can say that nobody wanted it.
- CrackBerry Abuser
02-03-13, 09:34 AM #33
- 135 Posts
I agree that being "sold out" is a lot more encouraging than "we have loads of stock because nobody is buying them" but we won't really be able to put this into perspective until we get some actual figures. Certainly if true, "several hundred thousand" on days 1 and 2 for a phone that was widely touted as being Dead On Arrival sounds pretty good to me.
- 02-03-13, 09:45 AM #36
Please delete this thread, the OP has not looked hard enough, stop hyping for the sake of hyping lets be realistic... in my town:
Phones4u have plenty of stock
Carephonewarehouse also have stock.
Vodafone store has stock.
My experience today.
Good: Dedicated stand for Z10, poster in window.
Bad: The demo unit on the stand, well the battery was dead even though it was plugged in so no one could see it working.
Good: The store was open. *sarcasm*
Bad: No poster / advert, no dedicated stand, the demo unit was locked away in a cabinet behind the desk out of site with some other phones just thrown in like junk spare parts or something, the salesman didn't even know they had one, was told by a colleague who over heard my interest, then he didn't know how to turn it on so I showed him by swiping up from the button, i gave him a little demo of the Z10 and the Vodafone salesman WAS IMPRESSED with what the phone could do, wtf?! seriously?
p.s he was the "Business Advisor".
Good: Poster in window.
Bad: Just dummy units, no dedicated stand.
Now not all stores will be like this, but this is the stores in my area, others may vary but can give guys an idea of how BB10 is being delivered, needs more work, the big PUSH is still dedicated iPhone and SG3 stands in all 3 stores.
- 02-03-13, 10:01 AM #38
The phone companies *love* to have a hot seller, when the S3 was launched, Phones4U rushed out a press release within 24hrs saying it was already their best selling phone of 2012 - if the Z10 was selling in the numbers people are claiming here, we will see a press release from at least one of the networks by tomorrow.
- CrackBerry Abuser
02-03-13, 10:27 AM #39
- 490 Posts
Alright...here is how the stock levels at the carriers would work in this situation. First off this is make or break for Blackberry. The carriers are NOT going to run out of supply from their main distribution center and here is why. Blackberry is going to over stock them and going to over stock them like this as an example.....here take these 100,000 units don't pay us for 90 days if you have too many at the end of 90 days...we will take them back. This is how retail works when you want to sell a product...always....unless it is limited by production. (ie. manufactures shortage) All of the carriers are going to be stocked at Blackberry's expense on this launch.
- 02-03-13, 10:46 AM #40
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02-03-13, 11:07 AM #41
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- 02-03-13, 11:16 AM #43
Z10 sold out in all stores in the uk!!!
What matters for Blackberry is the amount of phones they ship per quarter, Even if the reason it's a sellout is because of low initial inventory, that means that the carriers have to reorder Z10s an this time they will order more because they see the demand.
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- 02-03-13, 11:45 AM #45
- 02-03-13, 01:08 PM #46
That's by-the-by, to suggest the Nexus 4 is a huge run away sales success just isn't true. After about 6 weeks of sales the N4 had only sold 400,000 units and yet people were still waiting 6, 8, sometimes as long as 12 weeks for their phones. The rumour at the time was that LG was having manufacturing issues with the glass back and it was also suggested that the phone had sold out in the millions. Neither were true. It turns out that 80% of manufacturing was being stockpiled for carrier delivery. Google has always been the worst retailer of phones out there, they didn't learn a single lesson from the Nexus One disaster, or from any point on from that. And besides, the Nexus line will always be a niche product sold to nerds, geeks and wannabes who have to have the "pure" Android experience. The most successful phone they've launched so far was the Galaxy Nexus and that's only because it was made by Samsung.
The N4 will never be a huge success simply because of what it doesn't have rather than what it does:
It lacks a removable battery;
It doesn't have an expandable memory, 16GB is considered too low these days, and;
It doesn't have functional LTE.
2 of those items are must haves for me and I would think the vast majority of people who really use their phones for a lot more than playing Angry Birds, so the N4 could be free and it would still be too much for a phone that I would find useless.
- 02-03-13, 01:32 PM #47
I am pretty sure that BBRY is now very very conservative in its sales estimates after the Playbook fiasco and don't want to appear as overstocked.
Plus, it is obvious that there are fans that would buy the device, but that doesn't mean a thing as far as general market success goes (hence the downward sloping demand curve ).
Wait and see is all I am saying. Too early to draw any conclusions.
- 02-03-13, 02:47 PM #48
Z10 sold out in all stores in the uk!!!
- CrackBerry User
02-03-13, 02:56 PM #49
- 22 Posts
Guys the store i bought my sim free Z10 from is local to me and a friend works there, hence i managed to get mine on release day.
Now the feedback from the store (Phones4u) surprised me, on release day the store put out there allocation of 100 Z10's in the 10 hours they where opened and did sell out.
Now although they sold out stock was to be relenished the following day, My mate the Iphone user was really surprised he reckons sales where on a level par with the S3, now wether this constitutes great sales or poor sales i dont know. But if this is a snapshot of whats happening around the UK i personally think its impressive for a supposed dying brand.
- 02-03-13, 03:04 PM #50
Looks like were in the same boat, neither of us can get a Z10 at the moment...I live in the USSent from my NEW PASSPORT
or a soon to be BB10 PlayBook
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