Why are you disappointed?
I've been browsing through the CrackBerry forums on and off all day and I'm seeing people who are just throwing complete and utter fits about BlackBerry 10, the Z10, and the Q10. Since the Z10 is the premiere device here, I figured I should use this forum for this topic.
Personally, I'm really digging BlackBerry 10 and can't wait for the Q10 to be released, but also have a small interest in the Z10 device. I'm not understanding people's hate towards BB10. We all knew what was coming. The leaks confirmed pretty much everything. Why the outrage? What do you want BB10 to do that you can't do on it already?
Let's hear it.
- CrackBerry Abuser
01-30-2013, 05:38 PM #4
- 186 Posts
I pre-ordered one z10 today. What fanboys say on the web isn't always representative of what the average smartphone user thinks. I never watched the unveiling but I heard it was slightly dry and lame for anyone who has been following RIM. I knew what to expect because the information was already out there.
I think Americans are generally mad because they have to wait another month. I'm assuming it is because of regulation and carriers, not because of RIM.
- 01-30-2013, 05:42 PM #8
That is why people generally go by reviews, then end up buying the phone if they are good. I highly doubt that reputable websites are just going to hate on Blackberry for the **** of it. For the most part, they are just saying its an average phone. Not bad Not great. Just a good phone.
Problem is, RIM needed alot better then just average or good with this brand new phone that took so long to develop.
As far as your point about pre-purchasing - isn't that whole point behind early adoption?
- CrackBerry Addict
01-30-2013, 05:45 PM #11
- 657 Posts
- For the ladies only :-)
A couple of things to start...
1-Poor maps implementation
2-From reviews so far looks like it has poor battery life
3-long boot time
4-Not gorilla glass
5-Nothing new that would make the average iPhone/android users go wow"Let's sell this lean mean hunting machine!...in parts"
- 01-30-2013, 05:50 PM #12
- In the U.S. the release date. They've said March. It may be late March. That makes it two months from now. They're showing a SuperBowl commercial in a few days; completely pointless.
- We expected (not based on rumor, based on actual quotes from RIM execs) surprises - big surprises - that went beyond the leaks. There were not. No features/functions we didn't know about.
- We actually lost critical functionality that we were used to and relied upon.
- Notification customization
- Useful bedside mode
- Free/busy time lookup in meeting invitations
- BB Mobile Conferencing
- The battery life looks pretty bad based on reviews
- The camera performance looks pretty bad based on reviews
- More difficult to manage mail the existing BBs (the strength of BB).
- ... and more
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- 01-30-2013, 05:53 PM #14
If you want to be pissed off, then complain to your carrier. It's them that screwed you.
My only disappointment is how bad the tech press has been to blackberry 10 already. I genuinely cannot believe that people are criticising the platform simply for being a new operating system. Crap like "its bigger issue lies with the fact that it runs a brand new operating system." with no justification what so ever... Just its new so obviously it sucks. And "There were plenty of different paths for Research In Motion to take, and I do kind of question the one that the company ultimately chose." This from the same people who criticised RIM for NOT having a new operating system. I get that people aren't always going to love it, but jesus this kind of press is ridiculous. 70,000 apps at launch, the highest of any new OS ever, apparently equates to still needing to close the app gap. It sounds like people haven't even bothered reading the release, they had all this crap ready to go months ago and didn't listen or look at all.
- CrackBerry Abuser
01-30-2013, 05:55 PM #15
- 299 Posts
Not because I'm in Canada but I gotta say this is a good move. Let it out in a few small die-hard markets where they actually appreciate it and get a new version or two in before it's released to the "wolves" in the... wait for it... "flagship market of the universe". US Financial Analysts have been all over
RIMMerr Blackberry citing "doom and gloom" and many of them are dying to say, "See, I told you it sucked and they're finished" with the slightest of issues. One review complained that the number of apps in a brand new operating system was too small and there were no cloud services. Huh? This new OS was released... today. They're already splitting hairs because they couldn't find much wrong with it. At least the negative sentiment at this point is that it's not available yet in the US. That's good.
I gotta say that I was a little shocked when I heard the delayed US launch but they have a whole lot more phones to get ready and maybe some of the US carriers will see success in the smaller markets and rethink their strategy. Good things come to those who wait.
- 01-30-2013, 05:57 PM #16
- 01-30-2013, 06:04 PM #22
a new software platform launched in 2013 should have maintained a hardware platform that standardised on an OpenGL ES 3.0 and OpenCL compliant gpu, even if the initial BBOS10 release didn't support those features.
that requires a Mali 6xx / PowerVR 6 / Adreno 3xx series GPU, instead we got last gen.
- 01-30-2013, 06:06 PM #23
- 01-30-2013, 06:08 PM #24
I'm generally happy with the hardware. The demo showed it to be really fluid/responsive which just proves it doesn't matter how many cores it has since it depends on the OS. Screen resolution is top notch though it seems colours may be off (as shown in Crackberry and I think in Endgadget's review). Camera software has neat tricks but hardware wise, it could have and should have been better (low light, etc.) since it is not as good as the other top phones. There is talk about battery life but I haven't seen anything concrete about it. As long as it gets through a full day of usage, it will already be better than most if not all of the competition.
There are just too many gaps or things we don't know which I think leads to the disappointment. We weren't wowed as much as we could have been since they only highlighted so few of the features. Instead, we have to rely on Crackberry's full in-depth review (which thankfully exists) to know more the ins and outs which for sure you wont get on another site. And even Crackberry admitted there are things that still need to be improved.
Personally, I thought that the delays would mean there would be no gaps and more 'wow' but I guess that was unrealistic. That's a shame really as RIM/BlackBerry wont get that many chances to have everyone hang on their every word like they did today.
- 01-30-2013, 06:08 PM #25
Useful bedside mode
Free/busy time lookup in meeting invitations
BB Mobile Conferencing
The battery life looks pretty bad based on reviews
More difficult to manage mail the existing BBs (the strength of BB), e.g. selecting multiple messages.
Frankly speaking, the only reason I still use a BB is for some of the above because other platforms don't do them nearly as well. Without them, not sure what the driver to stay on BB is.
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