Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 27
Like Tree28Likes
  1. black.rhino's Avatar
    CrackBerry Abuser

    Posts
    434 Posts
    Global Posts
    436 Global Posts
    Thread AuthorThread Author   #1  

    Default Why the L-series has a large bottom bezel

    I see these complaints pop up every time there is a new picture of the L-series phone: "Why does it have such a big bottom bezel?" I posted the same thing earlier on one of the articles, but here goes:

    BB10 is designed for one handed use. If you take a smartphone with a minimal bezel and hold it in your hand, your thumb is likely a third to halfway up the screen. The new blackberry has a bigger bottom bezel that can rest in your hand, raising the screen and presenting the gesture area right to where your thumb naturally sits (more or less). It will minimize having to bend your thumb all the way down or slide it around awkwardly to reach the bottom of the screen to initiate a gesture.

    BlackBerry uses the "running through the airport" as the person they designed the UI for. That person needs the gesture area to be where their thumb is.

    This is a theory...
    On #BBM C000D377B
    Use Evernote?
    Thanked by 2:
    BallRockReaper (12-09-2012),  V22 (12-01-2012) 
  2. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    CrackBerry Genius of Geniuses

    Posts
    15,071 Posts
    #2  

    Default

    Thank you for the explanation I was thinking that's where the Nokia WiFi antenna was hiding. (kidding).
    Barljo and black.rhino like this.
  3. DJM626's Avatar
    CrackBerry Master

    Posts
    1,074 Posts
    #3  

    Default

    Thank you for making everyone aware of that fact. I was not going to question it, as I am not hard to please when it comes to outer dimensions etc of a phone. It's what it does that draws me in

    I might be back sometime in mid Feb or March, or after the phone has been out for a few weeks and ask why my "K" in blackberry seems so much lighter in color then the rest of the word blackberry, or why the blackberry logo on the back of the phone is just slightly higher in only one of the spots
  4. GTiLeo's Avatar
    CrackBerry Genius

    Posts
    2,276 Posts
    #4  

    Default

    Logical the same type of thinking that BlackBerrys are built on. The smallest things to make life simpler or make things more efficient, like Kevin said inhis podcast with reene"BlackBerrys are built by engineers"
  5. itmccb's Avatar
    CrackBerry Abuser

    Posts
    312 Posts
    Global Posts
    317 Global Posts
    #5  

    Default

    Okay so what's the deal with the top bezel? :P
    Thanked by:
    fernandomagelan (12-09-2012) 
    Dim-Ize and Knightcrawler like this.
  6. Knightcrawler's Avatar
    CrackBerry Addict

    Posts
    695 Posts
    Global Posts
    697 Global Posts
    #6  

    Default

    dunno what all the fuss it about. as far as im concerned, it was a design decision. It doesn't hamper my ability to use the device, and its doesn't restrict screen real estate as you still have a bigger screen then the iphone5.

    Its the same reason apple took so long to to go to a bigger screen....its not just about more space, its about the over all design and usability. maybe those areas are housing internal components that cant go underneath the screen cuz of a lack of space? it could be a number of reasons, so why get worked up over it?
  7. Skeevecr's Avatar
    CrackBerry Genius

    Posts
    3,508 Posts
    #7  

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by itmccb View Post
    Okay so what's the deal with the top bezel? :P
    What's wrong with it, you have a small area for gestures and then the speaker, it is not excessive and saving a tiny bit of space would remove the symmetry of the device and probably make it look a bit worse for a very marginal if any gain.
  8. DivideBYZero's Avatar
    CrackBerry Addict

    Posts
    762 Posts
    Global Posts
    763 Global Posts
    #8  

    Default

    People get bent out of shape about the smallest of things...
  9. skyrocket9's Avatar
    Banned

    Posts
    1,015 Posts
    Global Posts
    1,023 Global Posts
    #9  

    Default Re: Why the L-series has a large bottom bezel

    Or...

    OR..

    Rim designers don't care about aesthetics at all and gave a disastrous design of a phone... no need for bezels that large separating the screen.

    But whatever.
    fernandomagelan likes this.
  10. Bobert_123's Avatar
    CrackBerry Genius

    Posts
    1,817 Posts
    Global Posts
    1,937 Global Posts
    #10  

    Default Why the L-series has a large bottom bezel

    Quote Originally Posted by inthemix9 View Post
    Or...

    OR..

    Rim designers don't care about aesthetics at all and gave a disastrous design of a phone... no need for bezels that large separating the screen.

    But whatever.
    You cant please everybody, I love the design of the London, but HATE the design of the S3, just as an example.

    Sent from my BOLD or maybe my soon to be BB10 PlayBook
    Sent from my Z10 or a soon to be BB10 PlayBook

    BlackBerry Curve 8530 (Virgin Mobile) -BlackBerry Bold 9900 (T-Mobile) BlackBerry Z10 (T-Mobile) + a deceased BlackBerry PlayBook 64 gig
  11. itmccb's Avatar
    CrackBerry Abuser

    Posts
    312 Posts
    Global Posts
    317 Global Posts
    #11  

    Default Re: Why the L-series has a large bottom bezel

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeevecr View Post
    What's wrong with it, you have a small area for gestures and then the speaker, it is not excessive and saving a tiny bit of space would remove the symmetry of the device and probably make it look a bit worse for a very marginal if any gain.
    I'm just joking. Though what confuse me is that if the device is designed for gestures, then why is the face flat? Curving the edges makes exexuting gestures much easier without a large surface area, which isnt completely necessary as the gesture area is only a few pixels wide - literally just the edge of the screen. Though, I regarding the vertical bezels, I guess if you're going to put 4.7"+ specs in a 4.2" device, you're going to end up with either a tall or thick device and if you're going for thin, it would be best to center the screen and have two large bezels than one rediculously huge one.
    I'm trying to be nicer. If I say something that's not very nice, feel free to remind me
  12. Rickster1's Avatar
    CrackBerry Abuser

    Posts
    345 Posts
    #12  

    Default Re: Why the L-series has a large bottom bezel

    Looking forward to the new devices!! This in spite of the efforts of a few to troll and bash. Just got an iphone 5 for my daughter and it wouldn't accept the Telus simcard. Defective
    and had to go back. now its working well. other daughter has android device and likes it. my wife, new to her bb9900. They all like what they have yet none feel it necessary to visit other discussion boards of ios or droid or bb and bash. Seems like some people just like to be "inthemix". life is too short!!! long live bb10!! LOL
    gokulesh likes this.
  13. Masahiro's Avatar
    CrackBerry Genius

    Posts
    4,265 Posts
    #13  

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by inthemix9 View Post
    Or...

    OR..

    Rim designers don't care about aesthetics at all and gave a disastrous design of a phone... no need for bezels that large separating the screen.

    But whatever.
    I challenge you to find any full touch-screen smartphone without a large bezel at the bottom. You may have a hard time finding one because the bezel allows your thumbs to rest in a natural position on the device. It also means you don't have to bend your thumb down in an awkward position to perform a swipe gesture. Aesthetics is one thing, but ergonomics and practicality are more important (unless you're a certain company that produces an all-glass front panel that is subject to shattering).

    As for the bezel at the top, it's for symmetry (just speaking from a design perspective, as it obviously houses some essential components as well).
    Last edited by Masahiro; 12-01-2012 at 05:54 PM.
    Blatant placeholder signature.
  14. etumang's Avatar
    CrackBerry User

    Posts
    32 Posts
    #14  

    Default

    I'm sure its a combination of function and design. I'd appreciate being able to operate the handset with one hand without having to strain my hand or have to worry about dropping it. I understand there are alot of people that have some gripes about the design but I personally like the clean look; its symetrical, simple and classy.
  15. Knightcrawler's Avatar
    CrackBerry Addict

    Posts
    695 Posts
    Global Posts
    697 Global Posts
    #15  

    Default

    im definitely not an admirer of the design. I think it could've been better, but its also not horrible. It just looks like every other smartphone. The only smartphone that actually stands out in the design category is the lumia 900 series. I wish rim had gone with sharp corners and maybe a metal strip along the edge, but c'est la vie.
  16. DocDRM's Avatar
    CrackBerry Master

    Posts
    1,303 Posts
    Global Posts
    1,304 Global Posts
    PIN
    nacle of phones: BB!
    #16  

    Default

    I am quite confident of the real reason for the larger lower bezel if anyone wants the inside scoop . . .

    Allows for the muscle memory of the "one button at the bottom" crowd that will be flocking to BB10 to avoid constantly tapping commands on accident. Allows time for their constant urge to tap that button to be cured.
    It was recently pointed out to me that SugarSync was still in my signature, and no longer available for free. It was a nice (free) ride, SugarSync, but I'm seeing Box and Dropbox now, via BB10 integration.
    Masahiro likes this.
  17. Specwire's Avatar
    CrackBerry User

    Posts
    39 Posts
    #17  

    Default

    I'll wait till I see final hardware at the local AT&T shop before having a real opinion on aesthetics.
    Thanked by:
    jenks5150 (12-10-2012) 
    bluetroll, jakie55 and jenks5150 like this.
  18. rcheung135's Avatar
    CrackBerry Abuser

    Posts
    346 Posts
    Global Posts
    348 Global Posts
    PIN
    Ask/PM me
    #18  

    Default

    It's pretty efficient use of the bottom bezel for swiping gestures (like the Playbook) that help with one-handed use. Like someone mentioned, most phones have this. Integrating functionality with it makes the phone pretty neat.
    Nokia 5100 > Nokia 3390 > Motorola T720i > Siemens M55 > Sony Ericsson k700i > Nokia N73 > BB Pearl 8110 > BB 9000 > BB 9700 > BB 9900
    PB 16GB
  19. fernandomagelan's Avatar
    CrackBerry Abuser

    Posts
    113 Posts
    #19  

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Masahiro View Post
    I challenge you to find any full touch-screen smartphone without a large bezel at the bottom. You may have a hard time finding one because the bezel allows your thumbs to rest in a natural position on the device. It also means you don't have to bend your thumb down in an awkward position to perform a swipe gesture. Aesthetics is one thing, but ergonomics and practicality are more important (unless you're a certain company that produces an all-glass front panel that is subject to shattering).

    As for the bezel at the top, it's for symmetry (just speaking from a design perspective, as it obviously houses some essential components as well).

    I already showed you some devices without large bottom bezel. Have a look the thread again, so you can make sure what I m talking about.
    And also, the bottom bezel is not such a pain. The issue is the TOP bezel. WHY SO LARGE?
  20. Masahiro's Avatar
    CrackBerry Genius

    Posts
    4,265 Posts
    #20  

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by fernandomagelan View Post
    I already showed you some devices without large bottom bezel. Have a look the thread again, so you can make sure what I m talking about.
    And also, the bottom bezel is not such a pain. The issue is the TOP bezel. WHY SO LARGE?
    If you're talking about the LG Optimus or the Sony Xperia, they both have comparable bezels on the bottom...and they don't require swiping up with your thumb.

    As for the top bezel, again, it's for symmetry in terms of the design. In terms of the function, there needs to be some space above the screen for components, because there's not a lot of space behind the screen. In fact, most of the space behind the screen is taken up by the battery. If there was no space above the screen, where would they put the camera module (both front and rear) or speaker port?
    Blatant placeholder signature.
  21. mu4e's Avatar
    CrackBerry User

    Posts
    29 Posts
    #21  

    Default

    also, i believe apple sued samsung for the top and bottom bezels having the same dimensions.
  22. #22  

    Default Why the L-series has a large bottom bezel

    or

    OR

    What is asthetically pleasing to one person may not be so to another, and thus they decided to you know, have more than one design.


    Sent from my BlackBerry 9360 using Tapatalk
  23. parabola's Avatar
    CrackBerry User

    Posts
    92 Posts
    #23  

    Default

    I think it's also useful if you have a skin/case that may be covering up part of the face of the device.
  24. chi-town311's Avatar
    CrackBerry Abuser

    Posts
    354 Posts
    Global Posts
    355 Global Posts
    #24  

    Default

    well, looks like that isn't the final hardware. Looks like all your speculating may be worthless.
  25. tarektoverso's Avatar
    CrackBerry Abuser

    Posts
    250 Posts
    #25  

    Default

    This bezel hides a miniaturized transporter.

    Live long a prosper my friends. I'm leaving. Beam me up, Scotty.
    Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. why is it that the replacement tracfkball has to be OEM to work right?
    By SanchezValdovino in forum BlackBerry Curve 83xx
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 01-07-2010, 02:16 PM
  2. Why isn't the 8900 series curve being released for Verizon?
    By bacon.jay in forum Rumored Devices
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-09-2009, 01:39 PM
  3. Why is the 83XX series the best selling BlackBerry?
    By KoolKeyth5 in forum General BlackBerry Discussion
    Replies: 58
    Last Post: 07-27-2009, 11:58 PM
  4. Why is the 83XX series the best selling BlackBerry?
    By KoolKeyth5 in forum BlackBerry Curve 83xx
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 06-21-2009, 11:19 PM
  5. Why the storm has lag.....
    By Accidental Post in forum BlackBerry Storm
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 10-30-2008, 05:40 PM

Posting Permissions