Well the Verizon Z10 is Unlocked from the factory!

Just picked up a VZW Z10 last night and love it (Except for the Old OS and the No Network on ported apps). Well this morning on my quest to update the OS i popped in my TMO sim to see if i could use it to get the update and low and behold i have service!

The Z10 asked me if i wanted to switch to Global Mode and after i clicked that voila! Im pretty happy that it came unlocked from VZW i know that by law they have to unlock anything that is running on LTE bands. My TMO Z10 was Locked and i had to request carrier unlock MEP code.

Wow thanks for that very interesting

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Nice...will pop my att sim in and see what happens

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And the best part is that the phone does all the work for you, no need to change APNs etc... I popped my VZW sim back in and in under a NY minute it recognized the carrier and i had my LTE back.

On my Droid DNA i had to call VZW Tech support after using a GSM sim in the phone. When i put my VZW sim back in it would refuse to automatically recognize it and was stuck in GSM mode with the VZW sim in it!!

Pretty impressive BB & Verizon.

Oh and one more thing, i could not get it to update in Link nor on Site via Windows Explorer. So i guess our #3 Z10 version is a completely different beast made specifically for VZW

Picked up a Z10 yesterday at VZW, it also says unlocked, and was default on Global mode after activation. I have not attempted an alternate sim yet. I have a tmo sim sitting around from my gsm Z10 testing last month. Can you confirm that after the GSM upgrade (did it upgrade the OS?) that you were able to go back onto the VZW network? My concern would be some sort of later OS might not register not he VZW gateway if they are doing os version checks, which would not make sense but the carriers often don't make sense.

When i asked about buying an unlocked Z10 they said they did not have unlocked versions, otherwise the three or four sales people seemed well versed in bbOS10 and had activated several units earlier in the day, another buyer was also buying a Z10 earlier in the day. Z10 was upfront in the store but no special display and the sandwich-board outside on the sidewalk didn't have any BB branding it was promoting their $50 off Android phones.

Yeah, I noticed this too. I was curious yesterday so I popped in my AT&T sim and connected up right away once I switched to global...only gets 2G signal though..but atleast it works.

No OS Updates, just boot screen showed T-Mobile. I tried to update via Link and Windows Explorer update to no avail but nothing came through. I am sorry to say but i think Verizon Castrated this phone.....

Is the same thing true for AT-T phones? I can't tell with mine. But I had a suspicion.

I Don't think so.. I just came from a T-Mobile Z10 and even with my business account i still had to go through CS to have them send me an MEP code to unlock (Which im still waiting for) lol.

Yeah it's sort of a moot point if your goal is to be able to use a different carrier in the US since it only supports 900/2100MHz HSPA...which means 2G only on any GSM carrier in the US.

Traveling to Europe however, you should get 3G.

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Can someone post the radio band details on the VZW model? Would help make my decision that much easier! TIA.

I think the OS's are based on the model numbers and since Verizon is the only carrier using STL100-4, you wouldn't be able to get updates using other sims.

Has anybody noticed that you can't remove the voicemail as a speed dial contact on the Verizon model? I came from an unlocked Z10 running on att and I didn't have an issue removing it on that phone. I thought maybe if I unlocked this one, I would then be able to remove it but in reading this thread, it seems its already unlocked.

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Yeah. Isn't that weird. On my tmo Z10 I could change the vm contact shortcut. Actually u could delete all of them.

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Can anyone advise if the APN is changeable on the Verizon BB10?

Originally Posted by Spydaz

Just picked up a VZW Z10 last night and love it (Except for the Old OS and the No Network on ported apps).

Sorry if this goes off topic, but what do you mean by "No Network on ported apps"? Because I downlaoded FreebVNC which looks like a ported app. And I was able to connect to a VNC server on LTE.

Or maybe you are talking about something else?

Originally Posted by Young Z

Sorry if this goes off topic, but what do you mean by "No Network on ported apps"? Because I downlaoded FreebVNC which looks like a ported app. And I was able to connect to a VNC server on LTE.

Or maybe you are talking about something else?

Some people are reporting problems like that. Not clear yet under what conditions it occurs. Sometimes the same people complaining of that issue find that it works again later.

The VZW LTE phones that use the 700Mhz spectrum have to be sold unlocked as part of the agreement when they bought the spectrum. That's why the VZW iPhone 5 was so popular.

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What's the quickest way to check if I'm unlocked?


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Put a prepaid or friends att/tmo sim in to see if you have service. If you have a VZW Z10 its unlocked so no need to check.

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Originally Posted by Spydaz

Put a prepaid or friends att/tmo sim in to see if you have service. If you have a VZW Z10 its unlocked so no need to check.

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I have Verizon. Is there a screen that shows unlocked? I just wanna see those sexy words lol

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Originally Posted by gees97

What's the quickest way to check if I'm unlocked?


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Settings > Security and Privacy > SIM Card

If your screen looks like this, your phone is locked:
http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...g_00000018.png

Basically, if you have the button that says "Unlock Network", it means your phone is locked.

An unlocked phone would look like this:
http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...g_00000010.jpg

Originally Posted by Young Z

Settings > Security and Privacy > SIM Card

If your screen looks like this, your phone is locked:
http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...g_00000018.png

Basically, if you have the button that says "Unlock Network", it means your phone is locked.

An unlocked phone would look like this:
http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...g_00000010.jpg

Thanks!

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Cool. Never knew that. I guess I'm still I'm still used to android.

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