- 01-02-2013, 04:57 AM #26
You're sugar coating it a bit. Basic functions on a last generation iPod Touch are absolutely miserable. I'm not talking about new features. It's basically functionality like pressing a button and waiting 5 seconds for the app to respond. Like swiping and having the device stall for several seconds.
Apple products are typically buttery smooth on the latest hardware. But if you're on something near the bottom of the "supported" list, it's utterly miserable.
My 4S is slick on iOS 6. My iPod makes me want to shoot myself. My Macbook is slick on Mountain Lion. My old iMac was the worst computing experience I ever had running the same os.
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01-02-2013, 08:43 AM #27
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"Thorsten Heins said it himself: they're not in the specs race, they're in the user experience race". I dont expect this new operating system to be laggy, but in business things like this are said to distract the consumer from side by side comparisons when they know they are not equal.I think this will be a great phone, just expecting Rim to release a phone with the top specs isnt realistic.
- 01-02-2013, 09:00 AM #28
- 01-02-2013, 09:07 AM #29
Yeah - I'm hoping that this gets resolved with BlackBerry 10. My theory (could be wrong) is that Adobe AIR is pretty slow from a performance perspective and most of the apps are written in AIR. Hoping that Cascades boosts that. It seems weird to have simple air apps slug and slosh along and then have video games on the PlayBook using the NDK show these high frame rates.
- 01-02-2013, 09:19 AM #30
I'm not sure how you can make the statement "I'm tired of laggy *** blackberries and this will be the same.". Have you been looking at the demos of the Dev Alpha devices on YouTube, or do you have a Dev Alpha to make an educated statement with? Everything being reported and shown shows that it is not laggy. How about wait for January 30th to see what the device has and does.
- 01-02-2013, 09:25 AM #31Passport (10.3.0.1418) | Z30 (10.3.1.1016) | Lumia 1020 (WP8.1, Lumia Cyan) | Surface Pro 3 (256GB i5)
- 01-02-2013, 09:35 AM #32
RIM built its business by:
a) targeting businesses; and then leaking into the consumer space;
b) getting mass distribution of devices by growing carrier relationships
When the iPhone came along, it was a disruptive force. It was an touch screen with a touch screen OS built from a computing platform for consumers vs. a longstanding enterprise oriented OS. Compounding the matter was the fact that the carrier relationships that cause RIM to have explosive growth also resulted in a brutally fragmented platform that made it hard to develop for BlackBerry internally and externally. Add in explosive growth to the mix and the ship was difficult to steer. Apple had to advantage of looking at the weaknesses in previous Smartphones and launching something completely new out of the gate. Palm, Microsoft and now RIM literally had to restart from scratch.
Yeah - there's legit complaints about the aging platform; about their ability to execute; about slowness to respond in certain areas.
But every time I see a "Mike and Jim were incompetent" post from the peanut gallery or in the media, all I can think is, "they made a nearly $20 billion dollar company. What have you ever done that compares?" No one can take away that achievement from them.
- 01-02-2013, 09:48 AM #33Passport (10.3.0.1418) | Z30 (10.3.1.1016) | Lumia 1020 (WP8.1, Lumia Cyan) | Surface Pro 3 (256GB i5)
- 01-02-2013, 10:05 AM #34
- 01-02-2013, 11:16 AM #37
It took RIM an additional 3 years to even announce BB10. Seems like an awfully slow reaction to what had become a very clear threat.
Android and iOS came out in 2007 when the fastest processors were 1ghz single core (if i remember correctly)
- 01-02-2013, 11:26 AM #38
BGR photos and specs on Z10
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- 01-02-2013, 11:59 AM #39
as well the OS is altered every new device release to make use of the different chipsets so to say iOS was coded for a 1GHz single core is poo, android is the same way although drivers have to be recoded for every android device released
- 01-02-2013, 12:25 PM #40
I have no problem with the Z10 specifications, as long as it is priced the same as other devices with similar hardware. Unless you think consumers are going to just pay more for the great Ecosystem that a BB has... oh wait there isn't an ecosystem. So why would a consumer choose a new BB Z10 again?
I know there are some people here that will be satisfied with these specs, and I'm sure the OS will run just fine with these specs. I'm sure many on CB will have no problem paying for the BB10 experience (not paying for the hardware that's for sure). But out there in the REAL WORLD, I'm not so sure those people are going to do those things. It's their hands that RIM needs to get these phones into, not the hardcore fans that will buy anything they make. Competitive pricing is going to be KEY to a BB comeback, let's hope that when they announce BB10 at the end of the month that it is better than what has been leaking.
- 01-02-2013, 01:01 PM #41
so to say iOS was coded for a 1GHz single core is poo
- 01-02-2013, 01:38 PM #42Old ZEN Saying: "Be master of mind rather than mastered by mind." / Yes, Anger Management does work. 5th time is the charm./ My Zin: I can't help everyone....but, I can help someone./ Shh...Mrs. Peevers' biggest fan. / BB10 OS Archives
- 01-02-2013, 02:41 PM #45
all i can go by is the experience ive had. my iphone 4 is laggy as **** right now... playbook isnt.
- 01-02-2013, 02:49 PM #46
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01-02-2013, 03:43 PM #47
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But for goodness sakes, at least wait for that to actually happen..."Distrust and caution are the parents of security." -Benjamin Franklin
- 01-02-2013, 03:53 PM #48
After all I think it is pretty amazing what RIM is still squeezing out of OS7.1, especially since the newer firmware releases. The current and past Blackberry OS is in a similar situation like Symbian: An outdated system base which simply is not enough to compete with the rather new competition we have today on the market. Same fate also happened to Windows Mobile, by the way.
- 01-02-2013, 04:22 PM #49Old ZEN Saying: "Be master of mind rather than mastered by mind." / Yes, Anger Management does work. 5th time is the charm./ My Zin: I can't help everyone....but, I can help someone./ Shh...Mrs. Peevers' biggest fan. / BB10 OS Archives
- 01-02-2013, 04:26 PM #50
BGR photos and specs on Z10
Sent from my BlackBerry 9810 using TapatalkOld ZEN Saying: "Be master of mind rather than mastered by mind." / Yes, Anger Management does work. 5th time is the charm./ My Zin: I can't help everyone....but, I can help someone./ Shh...Mrs. Peevers' biggest fan. / BB10 OS Archives
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