[Chango_BB]

I was reading this news about how the German Goverment is ditching iPhones for Blackberry since the NSA snooping over Chancellor Angela Merkel's phone. The German government bought 40,000 back in March. According to the German government other bodies have also taken to the Z10 since no foreign intelligence agency has succeeded in breaking the encryption on the phone. I don't know if this is only the phone or with the additional SecuSmart chip.

Also according to the news, Apple iPads have been banned from Cabinet meetings due to fears of foreign intelligence agencies bugging confidential meetings. It is feared China, Russia, Iran and Pakistan have developed the ability to turn mobiles into microphones and turn them into transmitters even when they are turned off, using a Trojan computer virus, this includes also de US. This could be enough reason for a Playbook come back?

I don't know that much about encryption but according to the news the SecuSmart is 128 bit AES. I believe Blackberry uses 256 bit AES for it's BES 10, so I don't know what the advantage of SecuSmart and the 128 bit. Blackberry should issue, I don't know if they already do, phones (name it Z10, Z30 or Q10) with additional security enhancements like this one, so they can pocket the $2K+. But in general these are great news.

Sources:
Snowden Is BlackBerry Ltd (BBRY)'s Biggest Ally
NSA Probably Couldn't Crack Merkel's BlackBerry
BlackBerry 10 with Enhanced Security Wins Hefty Order from Germany
How BlackBerry stands to benefit from NSA snooping allegations | Firstpost
German Government Moves to Beef Up Mobile Phone Security - SPIEGEL ONLINE

[treaker]

Main reason I use one

Z10 on Telus

[hdb3326]

If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide. The Government Agencies of this World have far better things to do than actively snoop on you or I and the vast majority of law abiding society.

I choose BlackBerry because it does what I need to do, email, calls, reminders, organise.

I do not need millions of mindless, poorly conceived apps that have no real or practical purpose.

BlackBerry for life if they can build on the Z10 my current device and Z30.

If not, then who knows.

Regards to all

Ben

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[midnightdoom]

I beg to differ on the "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" mind set. It was recently reported that Harper is to spend 4 billion of tax payer money to spy on law abiding citizens and it will once again be masked as to protect the children... also it was recently reported that a lady from ontario was denied access to the states by the DHS because of a past depression she suffered.. so how exactly did DHS get doctor patent confidential information? how many more are getting denied access for something as small as depression? Sure they are not going to read every single text the normal citizen writes, but this stuff is going too far into our privacy as citizens. And that is why I left apple for BlackBerry too

An article on the lady
http://rt.com/usa/dhs-canada-depression-richardson-495/

An article with more detail of the 24/7 monitoring
http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/1.2445224

A petition if you disagree
https://openmedia.ca/ourprivacy


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[rayporsche]

Another reason to use a Blackberry, that extra security is always welcome, even if it may be considered just psychological for some. Back in the day when I was younger and felt like Captain America during the day and Batman during the night it was all good and easy, by then there was some kind of respect and procedures following directives of some sort......not anymore, today you cannot trust anybody anymore, just take a quick look as to how things have changed lately in your country (won't mention names or places) there is really bad element out here.....so that 'if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide' premise doesn't cut it anymore imo if you've worked hard to get where you are and have some assets of any kind that is.

[Boight]

You're happy to be a Canadian supporting a Canadian Company.. Then along comes this Canadian Information Commisioner.
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...ing-im-878919/

[hdb3326]

Rubbish re the depression case. Her friends or family may have mentioned this to the Authorities or she may have mentioned it herself. Or been carrying indicative medication.

That may or may not have been the reason for her being denied entry they may have been others.

It's laughable to assume the NSA or CA etc supplied information like that.

But be careful maybe i'm a plant.

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[hdb3326]

An egg plant.

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[20degrees]

If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide. The Government Agencies of this World have far better things to do than actively snoop on you or I and the vast majority of law abiding society.

I choose BlackBerry because it does what I need to do, email, calls, reminders, organise.

I do not need millions of mindless, poorly conceived apps that have no real or practical purpose.

BlackBerry for life if they can build on the Z10 my current device and Z30.

If not, then who knows.

Regards to all

Ben

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Wonder what world you live in? You want random people going through your personal privacy because you have nothing to hide?

Btw: what's all you personal info? I'd like to rummage through it just to be sure you aren't hiding anything. /sarcasm

Q10

[cbdwolff7]

If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide. The Government Agencies of this World have far better things to do than actively snoop on you or I and the vast majority of law abiding society.

I choose BlackBerry because it does what I need to do, email, calls, reminders, organise.

I do not need millions of mindless, poorly conceived apps that have no real or practical purpose.

BlackBerry for life if they can build on the Z10 my current device and Z30.

If not, then who knows.

Regards to all

Ben

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Nothing to hide here, But It's none of there Friggin business! Blackberry's definition = Stay Out!

[kbz1960]

I'd like to see a link stating that a bb10 device is any less pron to the snooping when it is not on a BES. Because I think you're fooling yourselves if you think they can't listen in or intercept your stuff too.

[k-fos]

Just because you have "nothing to hide", doesn't mean you have "nothing to lose."

[lobomd]

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me

-Martin Niemoller

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[hdb3326]

I'm afraid I'm far too boring to divulge personal info here. But ask NSA and GCHQ who will confirm that.

I take the point that it is none of their business but you have to remember they are targeting people and organisations for the greater good.

You do realise when you buy anything online or in store that data is recorded and passed on. Any survey or competition you do and provide details on, is passed on. I'd be more concerned with Marketing Companies having my details than Government Agencies.

This is a modern age with modern threats.

Just my opinion.

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[barbarianthemadserb]

If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide. The Government Agencies of this World have far better things to do than actively snoop on you or I and the vast majority of law abiding society.

I choose BlackBerry because it does what I need to do, email, calls, reminders, organise.

I do not need millions of mindless, poorly conceived apps that have no real or practical purpose.

BlackBerry for life if they can build on the Z10 my current device and Z30.

If not, then who knows.

Regards to all

Ben

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Wow, what a na�ve statement!

[hdb3326]

Yes very naive. But at least I can use my BlackBerry properly without spelling mistakes And being paranoid about the big bad government.

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[Bungalow_Bill]

Yes very naive. But at least I can use my BlackBerry properly without spelling mistakes And being paranoid about the big bad government.

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That's a pretty lame comeback and I agree that you're clearly quite na�ve. The Germans, and particularly the old East Germans, know very well where this kind of unrestricted government collection of personal information can, and probably will, go. Thank you, Edward Snowden.

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[hdb3326]

Yes he's a hero putting people's lives at risk.

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[lnichols]

The BlackBerry encryption is only for the data transfer and data stored on the device. The voice is not encrypted and can be listened to easily. Secusmart encrypts the voice between two Secusmart enabled devices so people can't listen to the conversation.

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[trinipoco]

I'm afraid I'm far too boring to divulge personal info here. But ask NSA and GCHQ who will confirm that.

I take the point that it is none of their business but you have to remember they are targeting people and organisations for the greater good.

You do realise when you buy anything online or in store that data is recorded and passed on. Any survey or competition you do and provide details on, is passed on. I'd be more concerned with Marketing Companies having my details than Government Agencies.

This is a modern age with modern threats.

Just my opinion.

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Modern threats would be the very governments stealing civil liberties using terrorism as a boogeyman.

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[hdb3326]

Yes, I am far more afraid of the Government than terrorists and criminals.

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[dragyn451]

Yes, I am far more afraid of the Government than terrorists and criminals.

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Amen Brother.

~Z10 Baby~

[Bungalow_Bill]

You're clearly struggling to come up with any cogent arguments. Being afraid of one doesn't mean giving carte blanche to the other. You should take the time to look up the word 'democracy' and hopefully you'll see that it's more than electing a group of people to positions of power and then standing by while they grant themselves more. The last century was full of democratic regressions and every one of them used 'security' as the reason.

Yes, I am far more afraid of the Government than terrorists and criminals.

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[dusdal]

I'm sure this whole line of discussion is OT, so apologies for contributing to it haha.

If Americans want to elect a government and be apathetic to them collecting their data, cool.

Once said gov't helps itself to my data that goes through servers in the US, not cool.

According to prism they have had access to Microsoft, Google and Apple for some time with no mention of BlackBerry. As such I will avoid those services wherever possible and continue to support the last known platform that is keeping my data.

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[dusdal]

Nice watch

Mikko Hypponen: How the NSA betrayed the world's trust -- time to act #TED : http://on.ted.com/dt6M

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