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Small Business Owners, Would You Be Willing To Pay For BES for Your Z10?
Being a small business owner and not having a large enough staff to support a BES solution, I am wondering if other people in my situation would be willing to pay for a subscription based BES service or a "Secure BlackBerry Cloud" type of service if it was offered. I'm not sure if it is possible but if I could pay a couple of dollars a month to get the enterprise functionality, data compression, security, balance functionality, I would be more than willing to pay it. It would help BlackBerry offset the loss of the other fees they are losing with the new devices and give small business owners the benefits of BES.
Sound off and let me know if there are others that would be willing to pay for the additional monthly fee to get the benefits of BES. Perhaps non business users would also want to enjoy the security, compression etc.
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- 02-18-2013, 11:07 AM #2
I would. Even for my personal phone, to keep data compression.
And I know of someone who would also do it. Unfortunately, the way they've got the pricing for BES it's prohibitive. And they did away with BESX.
I've got no clue what BB is thinking.Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons; dragonslayers are crunchy, and good with ketchup
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02-18-2013, 11:50 AM #4
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I would also pay for a watered down BES service that included Balance and BES cloud/security features. I would feel more secure if offered by Blackberry, but if its cost prohibitive for Blackberry to get it to a rate small businesses can afford, could it be done with a work around mimicking those features via a 3rd party app? Hint!
- 02-18-2013, 03:57 PM #8
To offer a hosted BES10 service with email for the general public you'd require an always-on Internet connection, preferably with an ISP-provided unlimited data plan, and your own domain name. The fee you'd need to charge has to cover the per-user licence fee that BlackBerry charges for each single-user license as well as a monthly recurring fee to cover the cost of providing the service. You could run it as a non-profit but you still have to cover expenses providing the service.
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Thanks for the feedback peeps!
The hosted exchange is also an option but as I understand it would not give you the data compression and balance functions correct?
The reason I wanted to post this was to gauge interest from other BB users. I think there is an opportunity for BB to offer a service like this and to replace the monthly fees Wall Street is worried about them losing.
Keep voicing your opinions.
Last edited by Wilkerson4492; 02-18-2013 at 04:37 PM.
- 02-18-2013, 05:29 PM #12
- 02-18-2013, 05:50 PM #13Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons; dragonslayers are crunchy, and good with ketchup
- 02-19-2013, 10:12 AM #14
If there was a beginner's guide to servers, BESx, and related upkeep... Not a small business but a BlackBerry family with a license for Windows Server 2012 and a domain. $15 is very reasonable if I could get over the initial barriers of implementation. I would definitely pay $10 out-of-pocket if that meant getting back BIS plus some BESx features.
- 02-19-2013, 11:50 AM #16
- 02-19-2013, 12:00 PM #18
- 02-19-2013, 12:09 PM #19
When you guys say, $5, $10, $15 - you mean per month correct? Because if so, BES10 licensing for around $97/CAL isn't terrible.
We started with BESx and honestly, I can't NOT have BES now as much as BES10 is lacking in *some* features. Those will likely be there in May though.
As for cloud yada yada, the Work Drives for BES is apparently an incredible and secure bridge to that gap. The bad part, it only works on BES. However he great part, it gives secure access to your mapped enterprise drives.
- 02-19-2013, 02:42 PM #21
Correct and they're 99 each, which is cheap.
@ the OP....no more data compression with or without BES / BIS. There isn't a whole lot of benefit using BES10 over straight Activesync anymore. All BES10 does now is control the device / IT policy, but really offers nothing more than Activesync to someone like you. For those of you who haven't tried it yet, Balance is something you will not like, as it is simply more of an IT policy than anything else.
It is a huge hindrance, as it literally separates the device in two, with little commonality between the two. An example of hindrance on Balance...
Say you have an e-mail you got in the Enterprise e-mail account and you want to copy something (or even a signature) out of the enterprise e-mail to an e-mail you want to send from your personal account - you would see a "not allowed" message. It is very heavily tied down - and you can't even override most of those policies as the BESADMIN.
Example 2 -- you want to attach a picture from your SD card to an Enterprise e-mail - forget it. SD cards are NOT accessible through Enterprise e-mail in this version of BES10, period.
BES10 uses Activesync...so in a small enterprise, not only is there no gain, but there is no benefit - and it becomes less productive than NOT using Balance. Balance is a mere marketing hype thing - in practice for most users - it's nothing more than a big piece of sh!t.
I have been a BESADMIN for over 12 years...and have been through all versions of BES.
BES used to worth something - but as soon as the Z10 came out using Activesync, BES became an Edsel, IMO. It's certainly not what is going to lead BBRY into the future. Z10's are no better connected (with or without BES10) than Android or IOS. Now, it's going to be about the OS and the user experience on the device, not BES solutions.
I can see where large enterprises like the idea of BES10, because it locks down the device and (almost) ensures that data isn't copied out of the enterprise accounts...but that doesn't bode well with everyday users in small business environments.
Clearly, with the Z10, BBRY has decided to go after the consumer, chasing the Droid and Apple devices...
They are not going to be the only solution for enterprise clients...as they once were.
You can't suck and blow.
That being said, I love my Z10.Z10
Steve - Besadmin
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02-19-2013, 04:27 PM #22
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I am using blackberry business cloud service with ofice 365 this costs about £2.50 pcm. I am not sure if this is the same thing, but my email is now linked through an "enterprise app" so everything is synced with outlook. Once i get my Z10 i am hoping that balance works with this also.
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