- 02-04-13, 02:57 PM #203
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- 02-04-13, 03:17 PM #206
- 02-04-13, 03:43 PM #207
I don't want to post process photos I take on a phone. #1, while overcompensating it a bit, looks a lot warmer. That photo woud be good 'as is' for most of my uses. #2 is just way too cold. As you said, something in the middle would be perfect.
- 02-04-13, 04:01 PM #208
Hey people, no iPhone to compare to, sorry. But I initially thought the camera was even bad.
Now I'm not sure. I got these, decide for your self!
These are 100% size pictures, no compression either. No post processing or noise reduction done, except for the colour of the broccoli picture.
The sock pic is cropped! Good texture right?
- 02-04-13, 04:09 PM #209
- 02-04-13, 04:15 PM #210
maybe there might be a software update to fix this but i doubt it, a bit of photo editing will make these images look even better and stand up well enough to the competition
- 02-04-13, 04:16 PM #211
I wish we could get a few more iPhone5 / Z10 comparisons as per the title of the thread. The 3 phones I will likely be deciding between are the S3, Z10, or iPhone when I upgrade. Camera is not the only factor, but I do use it for work a lot.
I am impressed with the S2 photos, which likely answers my questions about the S3 camera.
- 02-04-13, 04:48 PM #213
As for the church at night, on the full size image the S2 really loses the edge on detail in the image, and almost seems to have grabbed every bit of light available to make the image brighter.
Still comes down to what you want from a picture I guess.
- 02-04-13, 04:59 PM #214
Best I can do for Apple comparisons is using an iPod Touch 5th Gen if thats any good. Sorry to have taken the emphasis away from the original thread title, but the main thing is we are all showing what the Z10 can really do here.
Great pictures Novaone, some very simple and candid shots, which is what camera phones are all about really eh
I have to agree, at the end of the day I think the Z10 is a very capable handset for photos. Like the old saying, its not what you got, its how you use it.
Torndownunit, the S3 is stupidly good compared to the S2 as I found out when I was in Florida a while back. It copes with a whole range of situations and lighting scenarios that the S2 struggles a bit with. Not sure if thats hardware or software though.
qbnkelt, good point. Its amazing how different the pictures of both devices look between different displays., On my TV they look far richer, on the work PC they look good, laptop a little less in it, and phone, well I think I have made my point lol
Long and the short of it here is,...
The Z10 is very capable, simple to use even from lock screen, simple settings are a little bit of a disappointment as there is a lack of adjustment available to compensate for different conditions. But for a pocket snapper which can instantly share, im more than happy with the Z10, and really think people have just given it a hard time for the sake of it. Even some of the best point and shoots struggle in low light without software compensation. The images even at lowq light from the Z10 are not too noisy, and are quite detailed, thats what counts for me anyway.
Glad people have benefitted from the various comparisons. If anyone has suggestions for more, just post them up. And I will try to get the iPod in on the action for the next round.
- 02-04-13, 05:07 PM #215
[QUOTE=Snazy;7934363]qbnkelt, good point. Its amazing how different the pictures of both devices look between different displays., On my TV they look far richer, on the work PC they look good, laptop a little less in it, and phone, well I think I have made my point lol[\QUOTE]
at that point it all leads up to different displays have different screen calibrations, and it all depends how you set it up. there are calibration tools to set up displays but all may not be exactly the same i entirely agree that the Z10 stacks up as a photo shooter well it may just require a bit more photo editing to get the color to the degree that the iPhone5 or SGS3 are, but thats all the fun of Instagram and the photo editing tools you get to play around with the image rather then just shoot it and leave it
- 02-04-13, 06:12 PM #218
RE S2 vs S3 hardware/software improvements... I'm sure it's a bit of both. And the S4 will likely kick it up another notch I am sure.
- 02-04-13, 06:51 PM #219
Will do my best to do some more this time with the ipod just as soon as I can
- 02-04-13, 07:04 PM #220
I think my ultimate conclusion is that the z10 camera is not at the top of the class, but it is "reasonable". This pretty much verifies what I expected from reviews....the fact is, cameras, like all aspects of the smartphone have really been making strides. After all, how long ago was it that I was using a .3 mp camera (and impressing people with some shots from it!).....or astonishing people with 2 megapixel shots from a Sony phone.
If you want best of class, or if pics are a priority to you, you need to think about this before buying a z10. On the other hand, as an average user, not making side by side comparisons, and simply taking little snapshots, I doubt the z10 will hold you back in any way. Especially true, if you're moving up from an older model BB, or other last generation camera.
In that sense, I think it's roughly analogous to the screen. It isnt' as good as the best of the class, but it is quite good, and it wont' bother you if you're moving up from something worse!
I do disagree though Snazy that people (or at least reviewers) have been unfair regarding the camera. It is their job to discern differences, and express them. It is an excellent thing for everyone if the standards are very high all around, and the lesser camera is still "good"!
- 02-04-13, 07:42 PM #221
•4.99-inch Super AMOLED FULL HD Display
•1.8GHz Exynos 5 Octa processor
•13MP rear-facing camera
•2MP front-facing camera
•Android 4.2.1 Jelly Bean
•New user interface, dubbed "Nature UX"
•"Eye Pause""Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all." -Sam Ewing
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- 02-05-13, 12:40 AM #222
HollyWOOD1906: Thanks for sayin what's on the minds of many, well my mind anyway. I get drawn into these threads like walking by a bad wreck. I know I shouldn't stop to look but I doWhere's the back button?
- 02-05-13, 03:39 AM #223
The church shot for example, I was sure it would just be a black screen because I had heard it was that bad in low light.
When I say reviews and comments, I dont mean exclusively from CB
But like you say, for those in the industry who are paid to be honest, kudos to them for keeping it objective.
I think I have been almost brutally honest in my own blog / review of it to date, and another mini review will follow today.
All in all, I like working with the Z10 camera, and for a camera phone think it does a 'good' job. Just not great. We agree
- 02-05-13, 04:52 AM #224
- 02-05-13, 06:06 AM #225
Re: Photo tests between other phones & Z10 in same conditions
2 & 4
now those who defended the 9900 know why those of us with good cameras called the 9900 camera trash
I do wonder why the comparison the cb team posted showed such bad pics
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