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    I'm a engineering lead and iOS developer for a major social network. On top of my day job, I develop iOS applications in my spare-time.

    For a short-time I was actually a RIM employee, via a Irish company that RIM acquired. Being a RIM employee at the time didn't seem like a very desirable proposition, however, it did help me develop a sweet spot for BlackBerry and its devices.

    Management at my current company is not totally behind developing a BB10 native application, so I decided on a whim, to take some timeout and develop the application myself, with company support.

    Z10 vs iPhone 5

    I've been carrying the Z10 for about two weeks now, and these are my initial reactions:

    - Build quality is nice, phone seems robust and less scratch prone as the iPhone 5.
    - For me, phone is a little large (us European's tend to like smaller phones), especially a little wide. I think Apple got the size of the iPhone 5 just right.
    - I've had no issues with battery life, its not been a concern for me.
    - Love the red notification light.
    - Mini-USB port is really nice, but I think its location on the side is poor. It makes the phone difficult to hold when tethered to a computer while developing/debugging.
    - HDMI output makes no sense to me, in the age of wireless connections to displays. (Apple AirPlay, etc).
    - An unlocked Z10 was easy to purchase. Reading North American based reviews, I find phones and carriers are so locked into each other, that often a review of a phone becomes a review of the carrier, Very strange. My carrier (Three Ireland), gives me unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data (15Gb/month fair use) for €20/month, with no contract.

    BB10 vs iOS 6

    I really like BB10. It felt very natural and an interesting cross between iOS and Android. The C++/QNX underpinnings are very exciting and for a v1.0 OS, BB10 shows remarkable stability and maturity. Seeing fixes (why are they via the carrier?) coming quickly is very re-assuring.

    For me, the gestures came very quickly, so much so, when using iOS, I find myself swiping up from the home button!

    The peek and flow, is brilliant and is a very real innovative step forward.

    I was disappointed a little with the Mail application (mail integration within the Hub). Maybe, its just GMail playing up, but I found that things like unread counts would not sync, or not sync very quickly, in comparison to iOS.

    This was also true when connecting to my work account via ActiveSync to Office 365. It was very off-putting to see the red flashing light on the phone when at my desk. Read the email on my Mac, and then 15 minutes later, still see the message as un-read on BB10's Hub. This is something that iOS gets rights, and with BlackBerry's focus on mail and messaging, I'm surprised that this element is not working correctly.

    Any reviewer talking of BB10 app situation can't help but notice that the amount of quality native applications is in a pretty dire state right now on App World. But where reviewers see an issue, I as a mobile developer, see an opportunity.

    I look forward to helping deliver some innovative, native, cascades applications to the BB10 platform.

    I wish the App World store would indicate if an app is a Android port though, as in general these provided a poor user experience.


    XCode vs Momentics

    I have no love of Xcode. Ask any iOS or Mac developer, and you will get a chapter full of complaints about Apple's IDE with ease. There are two ways of looking at Momentics: comparing it with Xcode and comparing it with the previous suite of BlackBerry development tools.

    While, I never developed for BlackBerry OS7 and below, I have heard horror stories about how difficult and un-intuitive it was. Certainly in that regard, Momentics is a big step forward.

    Coming from Xcode, its hard to get excited about BlackBerry's IDE. Its competent certainly, but still feels very clunky to use. The "QML preview" panel refuses to work on a Macbook Pro Retina. The starting and deploying to a simulator is kinda slow. Switching between simulator (x86) and device (ARM) builds is a little clunky.

    Momentics, is not off-putting, but it needs tons of work to be really appealing, especially to the legions of iOS developers out there that BlackBerry wants to attract to their platform.

    In summary

    Love where BlackBerry is taking BB10. Its in much better shape than I ever expected. Having had access previously to RIM's intranet, I can attest that the company has had some death march to get to BlackBerry BB10 to this stage. The road ahead is long, but the first step is groundbreaking.

    For me, I'm back to carrying iPhone 5 as my daily driver. Why? Most of my friends in Dublin are carrying iOS devices, and the lure of iMessage (even with its cronic bugs) and FaceTime is just too much for me. With the Z10, I just felt that bit more isolated. No Path, no WhatsApp, no iMessage, no spotify apps.

    Yes, the situation will improve over time. But right now BB10 does not offer me enough to abandon all those app eco-systems. Maybe if I knew someone on BBM, but I don't!

    As a new BB10 developer, I'll be keeping a close eye on developments and when the time is right, I'll take a serious look at making a more permanent switch.
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    Fair estimate. What is up is coming out this month

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    nice balanced view good for you
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    Ummm ok. So you don't like the phone and you returned it because you felt alone. Fair enough. Thanks for posting. Enjoy your iphone

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    Interesting viewpoint.

    I'm using active sync as we transition to BB10 but I don't have the issue you pointed out.
    I can't help but wonder if this is due to some settings on the company server, as I get sync right away in the same scenario you made.

    Regarding airplay as with all other apple ideas, the world isn't embracing it for a reason. So until the world does, HDMI is the way to go for now.

    Aside from that, I appreciated your post.
    Thanks for sharing.

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    Nice observation Jack, thank you.

    I'm in a similar boat regarding the iPhone.. I *want* to drop the iPhone and just have the Z10.. just waiting on the final few apps then I will. I need to escape the Apple prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2stix View Post
    Ummm ok. So you don't like the phone and you returned it because you felt alone. Fair enough. Thanks for posting. Enjoy your iphone

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    I use the native DLNA on the Z10 for my wireless streaming. The "Play On" option in music/video/pics is seamless.

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    Good post. I really hope that BlackBerry see's this and works hard to make it easier to get apple dev's excited.
    If BlackBerry could do one thing to make you a convert, what would it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHerzog View Post
    Interesting viewpoint.

    I'm using active sync as we transition to BB10 but I don't have the issue you pointed out.
    I can't help but wonder if this is due to some settings on the company server, as I get sync right away in the same scenario you made.

    Regarding airplay as with all other apple ideas, the world isn't embracing it for a reason. So until the world does, HDMI is the way to go for now.
    My exchange server is hosted by Microsoft Online Services, so you're good experience with ActiveSync has prompted me to check out the settings again and maybe open a support call with them.

    They do support DNLA over wifi. I mentioned Airplay as an example, couldn't remember what the more "open" DNLA was called at the time. Its a great initial feature of BB10. If I was BlackBerry, I wouldn't have bothered to include the HDMI port and just pushed DNLA. Not a biggie, either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2stix View Post
    Ummm ok. So you don't like the phone and you returned it because you felt alone. Fair enough. Thanks for posting. Enjoy your iphone

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    U must be a little blind. As that's not what he said at all. He loved the phone. But where he is, no one else he knows has one. So hence the alone comment. Geez people READ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d3rd View Post
    Good post. I really hope that BlackBerry see's this and works hard to make it easier to get apple dev's excited.
    If BlackBerry could do one thing to make you a convert, what would it be?
    I think they have done as much as can be expected for a v1 launch. There is an iOS to BB10 porting guide they published. Its a little light on details but a nice gesture. The Cascades/C++ API's are wonderful.

    If I'd change anything, I think, I'd ask them to chase quality and not quantity in the App World store. Don't approve junk apps, beta apps, and apps that seem like beginners wrote them. Be different there, be bold. If I was them, I'd seriously think about limiting the number of apps in each category. That may not be practical, but who wouldn't prefer 1000 quality apps in each category then whats currently there?
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    I just have to point out that the "right" way isn't always the "Apple" way.
    To be honest, I know not of many people who use AirPlay. Everyone I know use some variant of HDMI
    Sure, I understand the lack of major apps at the moment, but give it a month, and they will come
    On the other hand, on iMessage and Facetime. First of all, most of us don't have unlimited plans, so we don't use any video chat over data..... Kills all your data in an hour. Not to mention that Android is still predominant in # of devices using the OS, compared to iOS. So if the Android users can survive, I'm sure you can to. Why not go to an universal app, like Whatsapp (which is on BB10 already in form of OpenWhatsapp). Official app is coming this week.
    While I applaud you for giving one of the most balanced and objective reviews I've seen from an iOS dev, I still have to point this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack918 View Post
    Be different there, be bold.
    Yikes, I just realised that I kinda quoted a truly awful past advertising campaign.

    When I was an employee, they forced us to collect a t-shirt with those superheros on them. Cringe :-)

    When RIM realised I hadn't collected my shirt, they UPS'd it directly from Waterloo to my home in Dublin! What a waste of cash that was. I hear, things have improved enormously since then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack918 View Post
    My exchange server is hosted by Microsoft Online Services, so you're good experience with ActiveSync has prompted me to check out the settings again and maybe open a support call with them.

    They do support DNLA over wifi. I mentioned Airplay as an example, couldn't remember what the more "open" DNLA was called at the time. Its a great initial feature of BB10. If I was BlackBerry, I wouldn't have bothered to include the HDMI port and just pushed DNLA. Not a biggie, either way.
    When you're traveling and staying at a local hotel (any given Hyatt, Hilton, Marriott, etc) you don't have a "smart TV" or airplay/dlna option, the only option is HDMI to connect to the TV in the room. That's my only use-case for needing the connection to begin with (at home everything is on the TV or built into it). HDMI is essential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack918 View Post
    I think they have done as much as can be expected for a v1 launch. There is an iOS to BB10 porting guide they published. Its a little light on details but a nice gesture. The Cascades/C++ API's are wonderful.

    If I'd change anything, I think, I'd ask them to chase quality and not quantity in the App World store. Don't approve junk apps, beta apps, and apps that seem like beginners wrote them. Be different there, be bold. If I was them, I'd seriously think about limiting the number of apps in each category. That may not be practical, but who wouldn't prefer 1000 quality apps in each category then whats currently there?
    Great post, op. Too bad rim decided to offload the "Irish" company

    BlackBerry knows that they need to improve momentics and make it easier to use (it is in their roadmap). The good thing is that the OS is mature and BlackBerry just needs to improve api access and the developer tools.

    The problem with the numbers is that BlackBerry needs the numbers to tell people that they are a platform with support. If BlackBerry had 1000 top apps (which they say they will get), it won't be enough from a marketing perspective. The carriers and reporters all focus in the total number of apps. They also want quality apps. So i think the incentive to bring different types of dev's over the BlackBerry 10 is working. Windows phone has 130k apps and BlackBerry said they will have 100k apps very soon. It's kinda crazy how fast BlackBerry has ramped up to 70k/100k in the span of months, with windows phone being around since 2010.

    We really won't know if BlackBerry can continue the momentum, but with what the dev relations guys are doing and the quality of the developer tools, there is no reason why it can't continue. With more devices being sold and more users, it will encourage more and more people to join team BlackBerry .

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwiseone View Post
    Great post, op. Too bad rim decided to offload the "Irish" company
    It allowed me to describe my job as: I'm an iOS developer for a fruit company* thats not Apple.

    * = RIM being always known as BlackBerry here in Europe
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    I have to agree that development pre BlackBerry 10 was pretty nightmare ish, but it can for any language.
    What it comes down to is how well the platform supports you when things go wrong. It's in this area that I feel they have made the biggest headway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack918 View Post
    I think they have done as much as can be expected for a v1 launch. There is an iOS to BB10 porting guide they published. Its a little light on details but a nice gesture. The Cascades/C++ API's are wonderful.

    If I'd change anything, I think, I'd ask them to chase quality and not quantity in the App World store. Don't approve junk apps, beta apps, and apps that seem like beginners wrote them. Be different there, be bold. If I was them, I'd seriously think about limiting the number of apps in each category. That may not be practical, but who wouldn't prefer 1000 quality apps in each category then whats currently there?
    It would be great if they could do the app store as you say but what is always said and heard is app count. iOS has millions of apps, android has millions of apps, I'm exaggerating. Even though in those millions of apps are millions of crap. So I can see why they are trying to get the number up.

    It is nice to see a developer, even one that does in spare time even consider it. Good luck and I hope you do well
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack918 View Post
    I think they have done as much as can be expected for a v1 launch. There is an iOS to BB10 porting guide they published. Its a little light on details but a nice gesture. The Cascades/C++ API's are wonderful.

    If I'd change anything, I think, I'd ask them to chase quality and not quantity in the App World store. Don't approve junk apps, beta apps, and apps that seem like beginners wrote them. Be different there, be bold. If I was them, I'd seriously think about limiting the number of apps in each category. That may not be practical, but who wouldn't prefer 1000 quality apps in each category then whats currently there?
    I totally agree with you here. It's very discerning to see the amount of junk cluttering BlackBerry World, especially in its infancy. I'm constantly checking for the big name releases and new and useful apps, but am instead confronted with a list of hundreds of different incarnations of the same app, ie. on board maps, translators, books, etc. Most look like they are running on a commodore 64. Most are poor implementations of Android apps or games. Come on, have a little dignity BlackBerry. Limit this sort of stuff - either that or create a whole different section in BlackBerry World for these types of things. Hopefully going forward we will see less of this and begin to see quality and innovation, something BlackBerry users can feel excited and proud of.
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    Thanks for the input, I know a couple of people, my eldest son is one, who want the Z10 to become relevant in the market, a) so that the apps (engineering & scientific) are developed and b) because of the connectivity with his network of friends. My son tried the Lumina 900 but returned it for the Iphone for now.

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    Nice balanced post, thank you.

    Re airplay, HDMI and DLNA are both supported by far more companies so are a better choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack918 View Post
    I think they have done as much as can be expected for a v1 launch. There is an iOS to BB10 porting guide they published. Its a little light on details but a nice gesture. The Cascades/C++ API's are wonderful.

    If I'd change anything, I think, I'd ask them to chase quality and not quantity in the App World store. Don't approve junk apps, beta apps, and apps that seem like beginners wrote them. Be different there, be bold. If I was them, I'd seriously think about limiting the number of apps in each category. That may not be practical, but who wouldn't prefer 1000 quality apps in each category then whats currently there?
    Feels good to hear an ios dev say this,because the basic argument i get from ios users is "We have way more apps" lol but how much quality apps they cant say,i for one know ios has quality apps but its just d argument they use that iritate me

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    Thanks for your perspective, it was refreshing.

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