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    Default No more push email with Z10?

    Ok, somebody explain to me. If there is no more BIS...is there no longer push email with the Z10? Having my Gmail pushed to me in damn near real-time used to be such a huge selling point for BlackBerry to me.

    I'm trying to justify coming back to Black...hope this isn't true.
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    Hopefully this thread helps:

    No BIS, what is the point?

    Wow looks like a lot of negativity on that thread. I'll try and find another one for you...


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    Quote Originally Posted by bintheredundat View Post
    Hopefully this thread helps:

    No BIS, what is the point?

    Wow looks like a lot of negativity on that thread. I'll try and find another one for you...


    Posted via CB10 on my Z10 Oreo
    Thanks for the link, but that thread starts with Gebhardt's rant, and the flame-a-thon from the fanboy newbies pisses me off. I don't feel like sitting down to 11-pages of that crap.

    Can someone just explain? Is there or is there not push Gmail any longer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davistld01 View Post
    Ok, somebody explain to me. If there is no more BIS...is there no longer push email with the Z10? Having my Gmail pushed to me in damn near real-time used to be such a huge selling point for BlackBerry to me.

    I'm trying to justify coming back to Black...hope this isn't true.
    I use Gmail with my Z10 and I get my email in 5 seconds. BIS gone doesn't seem to bug me at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davistld01 View Post
    Thanks for the link, but that thread starts with Gebhardt's rant, and the flame-a-thon from the fanboy newbies pisses me off. I don't feel like sitting down to 11-pages of that crap.

    Can someone just explain? Is there or is there not push Gmail any longer?
    No bis but my Gmail accounts all push fine. Instantaneous. I've had my z next to my laptop and it's about as quick as it was before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Signhere View Post
    I use Gmail with my Z10 and I get my email in 5 seconds. BIS gone doesn't seem to bug me at all.

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    Works fine with Gmail, sucks with yahoo.
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    Basically for push email you need IMAP IDLE, Activesync, or BES.

    Google supports IMAP idle, so you'll be fine.

    If you used POP or regular IMAP on BIS nothing really changes since BIS polled these accounts every 15 minutes anyways.

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    Gmail works fine for most people.

    Yahoo is the one that lost push with BB10. But that's not unique to Blackberry. Please see below:

    BB10: The tl;dr on email retrieval and syncing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnitech View Post
    Gmail works fine for most people.

    Yahoo is the one that lost push with BB10. But that's not unique to Blackberry. Please see below:

    BB10: The tl;dr on email retrieval and syncing
    Poor you. You're like the guardian of the same questions over and over again. That thread should be made a sticky.
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    Outlook activesync as well. I receive my emails on my phone as soon as I get them on my browser email
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    I'm receiving my gmail emails just as fast as I did on my BB0S7 9930.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandapurple View Post
    Poor you. You're like the guardian of the same questions over and over again. That thread should be made a sticky.
    Heh. Well the good thing is that I don't have to keep re-typing all that stuff every time, just paste the link.
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    If you don't want to know jargon just need to know which email system got push capability on Z10.

    Push: Gmail. Hotmail. Outlook mail
    No push: yahoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by siausin View Post
    If you don't want to know jargon just need to know which email system got push capability on Z10.

    Push: Gmail. Hotmail. Outlook mail
    No push: yahoo

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    Thanks for this! Reading this single post is soooo much easier than poring through 5000 pages of complaining and misinformation.

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    I have my google mail setup to use activesync, works like a charm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lurk_n_post_2000 View Post
    Thanks for this! Reading this single post is soooo much easier than poring through 5000 pages of complaining and misinformation.

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    ^^^This!^^^ Thank you, siausin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobwedgephil View Post
    Works fine with Gmail, sucks with yahoo.
    no it doesnt suck with yahoo...you can set the sync interval to immediate but thats not the default setting
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    Quote Originally Posted by walcolm View Post
    no it doesnt suck with yahoo...you can set the sync interval to immediate but thats not the default setting
    Wrong. PLEASE don't spread misinformation. Thankyou.

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    I'm using Gmail via IMAP. No detectable difference over Gmail via BIS.
    Just be sure to set it up using the advanced option, not the simple Gmail option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davistld01 View Post
    Can someone just explain? Is there or is there not push Gmail any longer?
    Gmail removed push via ActiveSynch For personal accounts recently but if you were using it at the time apparently it still works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kill_9 View Post
    Gmail removed push via ActiveSynch For personal accounts recently but if you were using it at the time apparently it still works.
    FYI - Microsoft just removed ALL GOOGLE SYNC from their Windows 8 product line due to this Google change. I presume this will happen on Windows Phone 8 as well. If so, that would mean Blackberry users making new connections to Google accounts have more sync options than WP8.

    Windows 8 app updates nix Google ActiveSync support | Microsoft - CNET News
    Microsoft updates Windows 8 Mail, Calendar, and People apps | Microsoft - CNET News
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    Quote Originally Posted by davistld01 View Post
    Ok, somebody explain to me. If there is no more BIS...is there no longer push email with the Z10? Having my Gmail pushed to me in damn near real-time used to be such a huge selling point for BlackBerry to me.

    I'm trying to justify coming back to Black...hope this isn't true.
    BB10 supports IMAP Push - so IF your email provider supports the same - you will get email instantly.

    BIS never did anything special, except from helping POP mail users get their email pushed out to the phone...

    in 2013 you should not use POP anyway - it is outdated .. and it has never ever supported Push.

    Gmail supports IMAP Push - and mails will show up on your device at the same time as on your desktop

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