- 01-17-13, 05:03 PM #26
For me, multitasking on both BB0S and Android is to my liking. The one thing I appreciate with multitasking ability is to switch two and from apps quickly, and they keep my place when I'm in another app. Like if I am composing an email and need to check my calendar, I can switch back to my email app and my email will be right as I left it. Also, the fewer keystrokes/gestures to get from app to app the better.
guys this is great info. Since I have never been an Android user (BB loyalist), I have never used the OS at all. This is good info as we prepare for BB10. As I have stated on the boards recently, I certainly have been waiting patiently for this to arrive. While doing so, I have learned a lot about what BB10 has to offer VS what others have to offer. Not sure which one will prevail but certainly feel that BB10 will be relevent again soon. It is nice to hear some of the nay-sayers starting to talk more about the new OS. This HUB thing is going to be a big part of the buzz-IMO.
That said, anything that we can add to what has already been said, bring it on. And not to change directions on this thread, but what about iOS in regards to FLOW/HUB?
- 01-17-13, 06:36 PM #28
I absolutely love my GSIII, but it doesn't do a couple of the minor things my BB's always did and I'm finding it difficult to adjust. Even after 6 months.
If BB10 has the same txt & email UI as BB7, it will be a difficult choice.......actually, it won't.
- 01-17-13, 06:54 PM #30
I'll be the first to tell you: I spent way too much time trying to get my BB to act like Palm, and then, Android to act like BB. I'm stubborn like that. When I was able to appreciate the differences, I enjoyed the product way more. Different doesn't always mean inferior (or superior).
As long as folks find a way that works, all is well. Clearly, RIM is doing its best to ensure it is a competitive force, and I like it. Good thread... learned some stuff.
- 01-17-13, 10:05 PM #32
I have found that most people who stick only with 1 type of phone don't ever really understand all the finer details of the other OS that make them unique. for instance a friend of mine who is a isheep came bragging to me awhile back about how on his imessager it will tell him when the message has been read. and I just laughed because that has been a feature of bbm since...4ever!
the HUB has it's roots in OS7. now i can click on messages and it will bring up all my emails, texts, bbm, facebook in one inbox. click on social feeds and it has them all integrated to one inbox as well. and yes android has a pull down notification but the HUD takes it further and refines the whole experience.
The new BB10 keyboard has predictive text, is this new? no. is it available on all the major OS's? Yes. But BB10 takes it that one step further and again refines the feature to make it great and better then anything else out there right now.
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01-18-13, 04:56 PM #34
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It's certainly true that peek and flow as a concept isn't all that revolutionary. That said, the implementation looks a lot nicer to me. It's familiar enough to people who are coming from iOs and Android for them to get what it does and how it works, but RIM have made it feel less invasive. The niggle I have with androids notifications is that opening it feels like you are interrupting whatever you're doing; to swipe it down you have to stop, swipe and then find the relevant notification, close, go back to stuff. A couple of years ago, it felt really nice, but it doesn't feel like true multi-tasking. That's what I'm liking about peek and flow, able to go from my typing position to check a notification and the close all in one go. Very elegant solution. Not a world changer, but a good feature all the same.
- CrackBerry Master
01-18-13, 05:08 PM #35
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01-19-13, 11:23 PM #36
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With the open API for the HUB in BB10, any app will be able to take advantage of the notification systems (HUB, peak icons, LED, etc)
I've posted before too, how on iOS (and i believe android too????) when you get a new message the notification bar pops up across the top of the screen as its received, potentially distracting you from what you were doing, or getting in the way of what youre doing. BB10 differs, as it does its usual notification (LED, ring tone, etc) and than keeps it waiting until YOU decide to peak to see what it is and see if its worth replying to.
I think the iOS solution is a bad add-on feature to compete with android, as is the new 4" screen... but ill save that for another day/ thread... BB10 HUB is going to be industry leading, as the BlackBerry notification system *arguably* always has been.
- 01-19-13, 11:45 PM #37
Android notifications will show in the top bar but wont interrupt you. You will be notified via sound or vibrate in full screen mode but you can check them via the pulldown at your discretion still. you can see the message flash in the bar if you are in an app that is not full screen but again its not interrupting you.
- 01-20-13, 09:18 AM #39
Another thing I like to know is: does Android notification menu allows you search through all the messages in the menu?
I guess for BB10, the HUB is designed to handle all messaging communications in just one gesture away. The Android notification menu is designed to provide notifications for all new messaging communications. You can do some of the messaging handling (such as replying new messages in "shadow"), but the things you can do is a sub set of operations you can do in BB10 HUB. For the things not in this sub set, they are two gestures away:
1. Conversation history
2. Message search
3. Deeper integration between messages, Calendars, contacts, news about contacts, etc.
Also I guess the notification menu can be patched so it looks more like HUB, even as efficient as HUB, but patches are patches, the feel will not be as intuitive and natural
- 01-20-13, 01:44 PM #40
Here's an idea: how about we all wait until the device is out and then we can do gesture, swipe, BB hub, android notification Comparisons then. It would be a battle of Who can do what faster and get it done faster in a timed video.
- 01-20-13, 02:19 PM #41
- 01-20-13, 02:20 PM #42
On Android you can always use the multi-tasking interface to avoid having to close your apps with the back button while navigating between them, and some phones these days have a multi-window mode to allow you to use two apps simultaneously, so you can truly multi-task and not just run multiple apps concurrently (practical multitasking as opposed to technical multitasking).
- 01-20-13, 03:20 PM #43
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