[kingbernie06511]

Hey guys,

if the DevAlpha has the same specs as the first BB10 phones, will a dual-core 1.5ghz cpu pass muster in 6mo when BB10 will be introduced, against a greater number of quad-core phones being rumored?

European versions of GS3 and iP5, and the latest nVidia chips have 4 cores+

4G playbook is nice, but its specs are a bit long in the tooth compared to a brand new iPad with it 4core GPU.... the first BB10 device might suffer the same negative sentiment...

[donan71]

If you have a great OS that knows how to utilize its hardware to it fullest and has great multitasking it doesn't matter how many cores it has. I would say more ram would be of a better benefit than multiple cores.

[mnhockeycoach99]

I'm curious what the people are doing on their phones that they need flippin 1.5ghz+ QUAD core processors? Really? Are mobile OSes just that inefficient or are people editing large videos/high res photos?

[kingbernie06511]

REVIEWERS LOVE TOP-notch HARDWARE SPECS.

Besides the original playbook, every piece of hardware from RIM from the past 3y had dated specs. BB7 have no front camera, no dual cores, not compatible with QNX. Hardware wise, RIM has become a bad reference and they should turn things around.

Do you think GS3 users dont like top-notch specs?

[kingbernie06511]

I'm curious what the people are doing on their phones that they need flippin 1.5ghz+ QUAD core processors? Really? Are mobile OSes just that inefficient or are people editing large videos/high res photos?

many play games. Some at 1080p.

makes good commercial/publicity, showing off what your hardware can do in extreme conditions.

multitasking + cascades advanced API + game +HD requires a lot of horsepower. Take it with a grain of salt, but 2y old playbook might have issues with a full blow BB10 OS, due to the advanced graphics. I have a 64gb PB, I love OS2, and i think upgrading to BB10 will be like going from XP to Vista, it will be demanding from a hardware perspective.

[Jtaylor1986]

Hey guys,

if the DevAlpha has the same specs as the first BB10 phones, will a dual-core 1.5ghz cpu pass muster in 6mo when BB10 will be introduced, against a greater number of quad-core phones being rumored?

European versions of GS3 and iP5, and the latest nVidia chips have 4 cores+

4G playbook is nice, but its specs are a bit long in the tooth compared to a brand new iPad with it 4core GPU.... the first BB10 device might suffer the same negative sentiment...

I don't know why you assumed they would have the same specs as the dev alpha as everything that can be inferred points that it will be a Snapdragon S4 with the Adreno 320 which is a huge step up from the OMAP 4460.

[Thunderbuck]

I don't know why you assumed they would have the same specs as the dev alpha as everything that can be inferred points that it will be a Snapdragon S4 with the Adreno 320 which is a huge step up from the OMAP 4460.

Absolutely. There's a strong likelihood that the Dev Alpha units are the pre-production handsets from the Colt line, i.e. the phone that WOULD have launched as the BB10 this year.

Presumably, one of the reasons for pushing out the release date of BB10 was to give the engineers time to configure better hardware.

[SurrealCivic]

The only thing we know at this time is that the first BB10 phone will have the same resolution screen as the Dev Alpha. That is all! Everything else is speculation.

[mech9t5]

i read somewhere that rim was having trouble with email in qnx. that was the reason for the delay.

they have this great secure email (BES, BIS), but porting it over is probably causing them great trouble. they want this part to be rock solid cause if there are bugs that compromise email security, they are toast.

[Double_J75]

If you read it, then it has to be true

[SurrealCivic]

i read somewhere that rim was having trouble with email in qnx. that was the reason for the delay.

they have this great secure email (BES, BIS), but porting it over is probably causing them great trouble. they want this part to be rock solid cause if there are bugs that compromise email security, they are toast.

I get e-mail faster on my BlackBerry PlayBook than I do on my Rogers BlackBerry 9900 on BIS.

[Sith_Apprentice]

I get e-mail faster on my BlackBerry PlayBook than I do on my Rogers BlackBerry 9900 on BIS.

Its the main OS software that is still very buggy, the E-mail works just fine on it.

[kingbernie06511]

thanks for your input guys.

Yes, we speculate here.

But RIM, when it comes to phone, doesnt get it when it comes to hardware specs. Everything past the Bold 900 (yes the original) had second grade hardware. And maybe too much plastic.

[MisterMe11]

The London will use Qualcomm s4 chips (rumored). These are dual core, but each core is roughly as powerful as 2 previous generation Cortex A9 cores. Samsung and HTC are both currently using the s4 on some models. So it just means that RIM won't have bleeding edge processor technology - but they certainly will be competitive with the s4

Hey guys,

if the DevAlpha has the same specs as the first BB10 phones, will a dual-core 1.5ghz cpu pass muster in 6mo when BB10 will be introduced, against a greater number of quad-core phones being rumored?

European versions of GS3 and iP5, and the latest nVidia chips have 4 cores+

4G playbook is nice, but its specs are a bit long in the tooth compared to a brand new iPad with it 4core GPU.... the first BB10 device might suffer the same negative sentiment...

[GTiLeo]

I get e-mail faster on my BlackBerry PlayBook than I do on my Rogers BlackBerry 9900 on BIS.

lmao thats a load of crap, i get my emails on my 9900 atleast 10 seconds before my playbook gets it. maybe its because i have a rogers phone and a rogers e mail but i doubt it it still has to go through BIS

[kingbernie06511]

faster on BIS for me.

But BIS hasnt grown and matured well in a world of LTE network and 10MB emails.... good riddance in a certain way.

[tw_]

Hey guys,

if the DevAlpha has the same specs as the first BB10 phones, will a dual-core 1.5ghz cpu pass muster in 6mo when BB10 will be introduced, against a greater number of quad-core phones being rumored?

European versions of GS3 and iP5, and the latest nVidia chips have 4 cores+

4G playbook is nice, but its specs are a bit long in the tooth compared to a brand new iPad with it 4core GPU.... the first BB10 device might suffer the same negative sentiment...

The European versions of these phones have quad cores because they don't support LTE. The LTE versions of the S3 and HTC One X use the dual core Qualcomm S4 because it is still the only available SoC with integrated LTE.

The other SoC vendors will certainly catch up and we will see quad cores with LTE support.

But right now I would prefer a dual core BB10 which would support our (= European) LTE frequencies over a quad core HSPA+ only device now that they have switched on LTE where I live.

[aha]

I'm curious what the people are doing on their phones that they need flippin 1.5ghz+ QUAD core processors?

Have battery to drain?

[kingbernie06511]

The bold 9900 doesnt get BB10 because of its specs. NO BB7 devices get BB10 because of their specs. THey need dual cores, and a homogenous screen res compativle with BB10.

When the first BB10 comes out, it will likely get dual core cpus. Will it be enough for BB11? What about its upgrade path?

Speed sells. Speed impresses reviewers. More speed never goes out of style.

[kingbernie06511]

A 1yr high end phone like the 9900 or Torch not getting a software upgrage right off the bat (we knew all along that they wouldnt get BB10) clearly shows that there is something wrong with RIM and hardware specs. The playbook is the only exception so far.

[aha]

A 1yr high end phone like the 9900 or Torch not getting a software upgrage right off the bat (we knew all along that they wouldnt get BB10) clearly shows that there is something wrong with RIM and hardware specs. The playbook is the only exception so far.

Nobody is going to deny that RIM gots big problem in their strategic planning a few years back. (I am not anyway)

[kfh227]

If you have a great OS that knows how to utilize its hardware to it fullest and has great multitasking it doesn't matter how many cores it has. I would say more ram would be of a better benefit than multiple cores.

The average consumer doesn't have the mental capacity to wrap your thoguht around their brain.

[CDLacey]

One of the first statements RIM painstakingly repeated over and over again when they handed out the first Dev Alpha devices was that people should not infer design and spec characteristics of the future BB10 handsets from what they see with the Dev Alpha.

RIM even mentioned that the first Dev Alpha devices were not even running the BB10 OS but a modified version of the PlayBook OS.

Please read Kevin's Dev Alpha review, which includes a quote from RIM that states "To be clear, this is not a BlackBerry 10 device. It is a BlackBerry 10 Alpha."

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-10-dev-alpha-hands



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[timmy t]

It is interesting that Apple people say the specs don't really matter. It is the user experience. Maybe we can go with that argument.

[masqueofhastur]

REVIEWERS LOVE TOP-notch HARDWARE SPECS.

Besides the original playbook, every piece of hardware from RIM from the past 3y had dated specs. BB7 have no front camera, no dual cores, not compatible with QNX. Hardware wise, RIM has become a bad reference and they should turn things around.

Do you think GS3 users dont like top-notch specs?

Given the BB10 phones will be on the same platform as the PlayBook, I really wouldn't expect them not to continue the trend of having top notch specs.