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    Cool Let's Face it The HDR is Garbage (till you learn how to use it)

    If you don't already know HDR stands for high dynamic range, it takes 6 pictures at different ISO and puts it into one to make the image look better. I was taking pictures of trees as they blowing in the wind, the pictures look ask if they were being thrown around at 500 mph. You cannot compare the iPhone and the BlackBerry's HDR. It's simply garbage. At 50% crop the images look like it's our of an 8-bit computer screen lol... I hope this will all change with the 10.1 MR and or the 10.2
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    What is 10.1 MR?

    And BTW, stop moving the camera

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    Let's face it, this post is garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douken View Post
    What is 10.1 MR?

    And BTW, stop moving the camera

    Marketing is everything
    MR is maintenance release. It's a leak

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    Quote Originally Posted by b_hansen View Post
    If you don't already know HDR stands for high dynamic range, it takes 6 pictures at different ISO and puts it into one to make the image look better. I was taking pictures of trees as they blowing in the wind, the pictures look ask if they were being thrown around at 500 mph. You cannot compare the iPhone and the BlackBerry's HDR. It's simply garbage. At 50% crop the images look like it's our of an 8-bit computer screen lol... I hope this will all change with the 10.1 MR and or the 10.2
    Cheers.

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    HDR isn't meant for moving objects
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    Quote Originally Posted by b_hansen View Post
    If you don't already know HDR stands for high dynamic range, it takes 6 pictures at different ISO and puts it into one to make the image look better. I was taking pictures of trees as they blowing in the wind, the pictures look ask if they were being thrown around at 500 mph. You cannot compare the iPhone and the BlackBerry's HDR. It's simply garbage. At 50% crop the images look like it's our of an 8-bit computer screen lol... I hope this will all change with the 10.1 MR and or the 10.2
    Cheers.

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    Each image taken using her gets mashed together. If something moved, then that new image will screw up the others. That's what happened to you

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    Yeah, it's not as exciting as it was made out to be.

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    Learn how to use it and when.

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    I know, but everything is constantly moving so it's a bit hard.

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    You're*

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    HDR is NOT for moving objects.

    And it doesn't work how you think it does either; it's not necessarily ISO-sensitive (although it can be.)

    HDR is a compensation for the fact that digital image sensors have less dynamic range than film did. So what the camera does is take successive exposures bracketed around what it measures to be "correct", intentionally overexposing some and underexposing others.

    This allows the capture of both highlights that are "blown" at the "correct" exposure and also capture of shadows that are black ("dead") at the correct exposure. The camera then takes those images and replaces the highlights that are blown with the properly-exposed ones along with the shadows from the other exposures, rendering one image with highlights, central tones and shadows.

    The problem is that it has to capture multiple frames to do this in succession, and if the subject is moving you get blurred motion -- not because the shutter speed is too low but because the subject(s) moved between successive exposures. There's nothing you can do to prevent that from happening in a HDR exposure.

    I create manual HDR exposures all the time with my dSLR; I take a bracketed set of shots that intentionally over and underexpose, and then combine them in post-processing. Same problem applies although my Canon 7d can shoot the bracketed set of shots at 8fps -- if the subject moves during that period I'm screwed.

    The Z10's HDR mode is surprisingly good for a cameraphone. The biggest issue that it, like all current phone cameras have, is that by not giving the option for raw capture you're stuck with the loss of information that JPEG compression imposes. In addition cellphone cameras have very poor depth-of-field control because the sensor is so small -- there is nothing that can be done about that as it's a function of the size of the sensor itself (and is the reason that "full frame" cameras can produce superior depth-of-field effects over crop-sensor ones.)

    Finally the "burst" mode on the Z10 is simply out-of-this-world for a cellphone. The included image coprocessor is likely responsible for that; I've not found a buffer depth limit on it yet, and that surprised me.
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    You're doing it wrong...


    Let's Face it The HDR is Garbage (till you learn how to use it)-img_00000376.jpg
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    Let's Face it The HDR is Garbage (till you learn how to use it)-img_00000327_hdr.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by R Field View Post
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    HDR takes 3 shots - over exposed, under exposed and at normal exposure to combine, with the camera on the z10 it isn't meant to take moving objects.

    that's what DSLR cameras and post editing software is for
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    It's the same with iPhone. You have to have everyone and yourself be still

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    Quote Originally Posted by faithfuluser View Post
    Why does it look blurry?
    It's not it's blending different shots.

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    Let's Face it The HDR is Garbage (till you learn how to use it)-img_00000860_hdr.jpg
    Let's Face it The HDR is Garbage (till you learn how to use it)-img_00000860.jpg

    See a difference? Even with my shaky hands, it looks acceptable. Definitely does not suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b_hansen View Post
    If you don't already know HDR stands for high dynamic range, it takes 6 pictures at different ISO and puts it into one to make the image look better. I was taking pictures of trees as they blowing in the wind, the pictures look ask if they were being thrown around at 500 mph. You cannot compare the iPhone and the BlackBerry's HDR. It's simply garbage. At 50% crop the images look like it's our of an 8-bit computer screen lol... I hope this will all change with the 10.1 MR and or the 10.2
    Cheers.

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    HDR is decent, even with low light scenes like this one. I think major "flaws" of z10 camera are: no manual control, max shutter speed is only 1/15

    Let's Face it The HDR is Garbage (till you learn how to use it)-img_00000120_hdr.jpg
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    HDR is not for moving objects. I do agree that the HDR option in the BlackBerry 10 camera app is not that great and the iPhone has better results, but I have found 3rd party HDR Apps work the best. It would be nice to see these apps on BlackBerry 10.


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    Hey OP, I wonder if you know HDR is not for use on moving objects! LMFAO!

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    You know my DSLR takes better pictures than ANY Phone camera.

    Might be worth considering if you're THAT bothered by photo quality

    Z10 Camera is what you make of it http://www.flickr.com/photos/sgt_sna...7633881068486/

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    It's not the camera or the options, it's the photographer

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    Has anyone taken the same shots, under the same conditions, with iPhone5 and Z10 for comparison? I would be interested in seeing that.
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    This guy is the same one that posted several times that the iPhone keyboard was much better than the Z10 keyboard.

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