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    Default Factory Unlocked BB10 Model #: RFH121LW = No 4G newtork on T-Mobile USA

    putting my brand new mirco-sim card into the phone and I'm getting an "E" & like 4-5 bars of service.
    No 2G/3G/4G or anything.
    Driving to the T-mobile store now to see if they can help, but I highly doubt it.
    I think I got screwed.
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    Where are you located?
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    That model does not support 4g at 1700 mhz or even 1900mhz. Where did you get it from?
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    By the way, "E" is 2g speed. It is short for Edge.

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    Sorry, people really need to wait or make sure they are getting one that matches their carrier and that even if your carrier allows phones not branded by them.
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    Mobile network radio specifications for model number RFK121LW:•
    Quad-band LTE support: LTE 700, LTE 850, LTE 1700, LTE 1900 MHz band•
    Quad-band HSPA+ support: UMTS 800/UMTS 850, UMTS 1700, UMTS 1900, UMTS 2100 MHz band•
    Quad-band GSM support: GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900 MHz•
    Power class: Class 1 (DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 4 (GSM 850) as defined in GSM 5.05, Class 4 (GSM 900) as defined in GSM 02.06, Class E2 (GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 3 (UMTS, LTE)•
    Transmitting frequency: GSM 824 to 849 MHz, GSM 880 to 915 MHz, DCS 1710 to 1785 MHz, PCS 1850 to 1910 MHz, UMTS 824 to 849 MHz, UMTS 1710 to 1755 MHz, UMTS 1850 to 1910 MHz, UMTS 1920 to 1980 MHz, LTE 704 to 716 MHz, LTE 824 to 849 MHz, LTE 1850 to 1910 MHz, LTE 1710 to 1755 MHz•
    Receiving frequency: GSM 869 to 894 MHz, GSM 925 to 960 MHz, DCS 1805 to 1880 MHz, PCS 1930 to 1990 MHz, UMTS 869 to 894 MHz, UMTS 1930 to 1990 MHz, UMTS 2110 to 2155 MHz, UMTS 2110 to 2170 MHz, LTE 734 to 746 MHz, LTE 869 to 894 MHz, LTE 1930 to 1990 MHz, LTE 2110 to 2155 MHz

    Mobile network radio specifications for model number RFF91LW:•
    Quad-band LTE support: LTE 700, LTE 850, LTE 1700, LTE 1900 MHz band•
    Tri-band HSPA+ support: UMTS 800/UMTS 850, UMTS 1900, UMTS 2100 MHz band•
    Quad-band GSM support: GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900 MHz•
    Power class: Class 1 (DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 4 (GSM 850) as defined in GSM 5.05, Class 4 (GSM 900) as defined in GSM 02.06, Class E2 (GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 3 (UMTS, LTE)•
    Transmitting frequency: GSM 824 to 849 MHz, GSM 880 to 915 MHz, DCS 1710 to 1785 MHz, PCS 1850 to 1910 MHz, UMTS 824 to 849 MHz, UMTS 1850 to 1910 MHz, UMTS 1920 to 1980 MHz, LTE 704 to 716 MHz, LTE 824 to 849 MHz, LTE 1850 to 1910 MHz, LTE 1710 to 1755 MHz•
    Receiving frequency: GSM 869 to 894 MHz, GSM 925 to 960 MHz, DCS 1805 to 1880 MHz, PCS 1930 to 1990 MHz, UMTS 869 to 894 MHz, UMTS 1930 to 1990 MHz, UMTS 2110 to 2170 MHz, LTE 734 to 746 MHz, LTE 869 to 894 MHz, LTE 1930 to 1990 MHz, LTE 2110 to 2155 MHz


    Mobile network radio specifications for RFH121LW:•
    Quad-band LTE support: LTE 800, LTE 900, LTE 1800, LTE 2600 MHz•
    Tri-band HSPA+ support: UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100 MHz band•
    Quad-band GSM support: GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900 MHz•
    Power class: Class 1 (DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 4 (GSM 850) as defined in GSM 5.05, Class 4 (GSM 900) as defined in GSM 02.06, Class E2 (GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 3 (UMTS, LTE)•
    Transmitting frequency: GSM 824 to 849 MHz, GSM 880 to 915 MHz, DCS 1710 to 1785 MHz, PCS 1850 to 1910 MHz, IMT 1920 to 1980 MHz, LTE 832 to 862 MHz, LTE 2500 to 2570 MHz•
    Receiving frequency: GSM 869 to 894 MHz, GSM 925 to 960 MHz, DCS 1805 to 1880 MHz, PCS 1930 to 1990 MHz, IMT 2110 to 2170 MHz, LTE 791 to 821 MHz, LTE 2620 to 2690 MHz



    So for T-Mobile you would want the RFK121LW! The RFH121LW is TriBand HSPA without T-Mobile freqs and Internnational LTE Bands. So yep you are hosed! Where did you buy it from?
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    Can you edit the apn?
    Should be epc.tmobile.com
    You should be able to get at least Edge maybe 3G depending on which city you are in

    Good luck
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    He is getting edge.

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    I think you need RFK121LW not RFH to work on T-Mobile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbz1960 View Post
    Sorry, people really need to wait or make sure they are getting one that matches their carrier and that even if your carrier allows phones not branded by them.
    This is why I am waiting to see if Sprint will get the Z10 or not, they told me directly (by chat) that they do not support phones they don't sell. If they do not get the Z10 I will take my talented Z10 to some other network, still not sure who it will be, will have to test the waters and see what I can get.
    I will not be locked into a contract though, gonna buy the phone outright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lnichols View Post
    Mobile network radio specifications for model number RFK121LW:•
    Quad-band LTE support: LTE 700, LTE 850, LTE 1700, LTE 1900 MHz band•
    Quad-band HSPA+ support: UMTS 800/UMTS 850, UMTS 1700, UMTS 1900, UMTS 2100 MHz band•
    Quad-band GSM support: GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900 MHz•
    Power class: Class 1 (DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 4 (GSM 850) as defined in GSM 5.05, Class 4 (GSM 900) as defined in GSM 02.06, Class E2 (GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 3 (UMTS, LTE)•
    Transmitting frequency: GSM 824 to 849 MHz, GSM 880 to 915 MHz, DCS 1710 to 1785 MHz, PCS 1850 to 1910 MHz, UMTS 824 to 849 MHz, UMTS 1710 to 1755 MHz, UMTS 1850 to 1910 MHz, UMTS 1920 to 1980 MHz, LTE 704 to 716 MHz, LTE 824 to 849 MHz, LTE 1850 to 1910 MHz, LTE 1710 to 1755 MHz•
    Receiving frequency: GSM 869 to 894 MHz, GSM 925 to 960 MHz, DCS 1805 to 1880 MHz, PCS 1930 to 1990 MHz, UMTS 869 to 894 MHz, UMTS 1930 to 1990 MHz, UMTS 2110 to 2155 MHz, UMTS 2110 to 2170 MHz, LTE 734 to 746 MHz, LTE 869 to 894 MHz, LTE 1930 to 1990 MHz, LTE 2110 to 2155 MHz

    Mobile network radio specifications for model number RFF91LW:•
    Quad-band LTE support: LTE 700, LTE 850, LTE 1700, LTE 1900 MHz band•
    Tri-band HSPA+ support: UMTS 800/UMTS 850, UMTS 1900, UMTS 2100 MHz band•
    Quad-band GSM support: GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900 MHz•
    Power class: Class 1 (DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 4 (GSM 850) as defined in GSM 5.05, Class 4 (GSM 900) as defined in GSM 02.06, Class E2 (GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 3 (UMTS, LTE)•
    Transmitting frequency: GSM 824 to 849 MHz, GSM 880 to 915 MHz, DCS 1710 to 1785 MHz, PCS 1850 to 1910 MHz, UMTS 824 to 849 MHz, UMTS 1850 to 1910 MHz, UMTS 1920 to 1980 MHz, LTE 704 to 716 MHz, LTE 824 to 849 MHz, LTE 1850 to 1910 MHz, LTE 1710 to 1755 MHz•
    Receiving frequency: GSM 869 to 894 MHz, GSM 925 to 960 MHz, DCS 1805 to 1880 MHz, PCS 1930 to 1990 MHz, UMTS 869 to 894 MHz, UMTS 1930 to 1990 MHz, UMTS 2110 to 2170 MHz, LTE 734 to 746 MHz, LTE 869 to 894 MHz, LTE 1930 to 1990 MHz, LTE 2110 to 2155 MHz


    Mobile network radio specifications for RFH121LW:•
    Quad-band LTE support: LTE 800, LTE 900, LTE 1800, LTE 2600 MHz•
    Tri-band HSPA+ support: UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100 MHz band•
    Quad-band GSM support: GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900 MHz•
    Power class: Class 1 (DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 4 (GSM 850) as defined in GSM 5.05, Class 4 (GSM 900) as defined in GSM 02.06, Class E2 (GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 3 (UMTS, LTE)•
    Transmitting frequency: GSM 824 to 849 MHz, GSM 880 to 915 MHz, DCS 1710 to 1785 MHz, PCS 1850 to 1910 MHz, IMT 1920 to 1980 MHz, LTE 832 to 862 MHz, LTE 2500 to 2570 MHz•
    Receiving frequency: GSM 869 to 894 MHz, GSM 925 to 960 MHz, DCS 1805 to 1880 MHz, PCS 1930 to 1990 MHz, IMT 2110 to 2170 MHz, LTE 791 to 821 MHz, LTE 2620 to 2690 MHz



    So for T-Mobile you would want the RFK121LW! The RFH121LW is TriBand HSPA without T-Mobile freqs and Internnational LTE Bands. So yep you are hosed! Where did you buy it from?
    this information couldn't be more correct.
    you are a genius!
    I bought the RFH121LW from a random eBayer..
    Just drove to Connecticut (about an hour away from my house)
    to the GSMNation / Solavei warehouse and purchased a model #: RFF91LW for $1k
    really nice people over there they actually gave me a $80 discount because of how far i traveled, and now i got my new bb10 working perfectly with 4G!!!!!!.

    I will be returning the eBay seller, however I don't think it was my fault.
    He should have stated in the description what model the BB10 was.
    Hope this thread helps everyone out. before buying an unlocked z10 please know that there are DIFFERENT models!!
    I had no freaking idea.
    and to the person that I quoting.. this quote is what I should have read before I bought any z10..
    now i literally have 6 Z10's I gotta return 5 to eBay, and re-order another 5 from these Solavei guys.
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    do you know if the T mobile you are on is 1700/2100 or 1900?
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    I have yet to hear of a rff91lw that did not work everywhere on 4g on T-Mobile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverfern View Post
    do you know if the T mobile you are on is 1700/2100 or 1900?
    T-Mobile is on a 1700/2100
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawguyman View Post
    I have yet to hear of a rff91lw that did not work everywhere on 4g on T-Mobile.
    Please read my first post and the title of this thread.
    I got a Model #: RFH121LW from eBay, which doesn't support T-Mobile unless you enjoy EDGE speeds.
    I went out and purcahsed a model RFF91LW, and is now working perfectly with T-Mobile..
    well.. WAS working.. I don't know what I did but read my other thread I made:

    Brand New Z10. Need Help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RHDJEEZY View Post
    T-Mobile is on a 1700/2100
    From No data on AT&T Prepaid :

    Quote Originally Posted by b320 View Post
    ... Depending on the device you get, you may or may not be able to access T-Mobile's "4G" WCDMA (3G / HSDPA / HSUPA) network if it's not available through both PCS and AWS yet. T-Mobile is refarming its network to provide 3G / 4G access on PCS frequencies throughout its footprint (taking spectrum availability into consideration).
    1700/2100 is AWS. LTE is a different story.
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    i am not too sure what that means, so will the RFF91LW also work with the 1700/2100 AWS from tmobile? or only the 1900?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dakid72 View Post
    This is why I am waiting to see if Sprint will get the Z10 or not, they told me directly (by chat) that they do not support phones they don't sell. If they do not get the Z10 I will take my talented Z10 to some other network, still not sure who it will be, will have to test the waters and see what I can get.
    I will not be locked into a contract though, gonna buy the phone outright.
    Sprint isn't getting the Zed and no phones except Sprint phones ever have worked on Sprint, even if they're 100% compatible band wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverfern View Post
    i am not too sure what that means, so will the RFF91LW also work with the 1700/2100 AWS from tmobile? or only the 1900?
    If the model specifications up-thread are correct, then RFF91LW *will* work using PCS 1900 using T-Mobile "3G / 4G" but *only* wherever the network has been refarmed for T-Mobile's WCDMA / 3G / 4G using PCS 1900 spectrum. It will not work on AWS.
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    Default Factory Unlocked BB10 Model #: RFH121LW = No 4G newtork on T-Mobile USA

    but how about those reports of the 91 version working on wind's hspa network? thats whats really baffling me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverfern View Post
    but how about those reports of the 91 version working on wind's hspa network? thats whats really baffling me

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    Can't speak to that. Maybe someone else will comment.
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    I don't understand why you all keep saying this. Why wouldn't an unlocked version work on Sprint? My sister has an unlocked iphone 4s and it works perfectly fine, so why cant the Z10???
    Quote Originally Posted by SCrid2000 View Post
    Sprint isn't getting the Zed and no phones except Sprint phones ever have worked on Sprint, even if they're 100% compatible band wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RHDJEEZY View Post
    putting my brand new mirco-sim card into the phone and I'm getting an "E" & like 4-5 bars of service.
    No 2G/3G/4G or anything.
    Driving to the T-mobile store now to see if they can help, but I highly doubt it.
    I think I got screwed.
    Wow so weird. I thought in numerous threads it was basically decided that's the model to get for tmobile USA
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    Quote Originally Posted by austriker View Post
    Wow so weird. I thought in numerous threads it was basically decided that's the model to get for tmobile USA
    No, you need RFK121LW not RFH to work on T-Mobile.
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    Default Factory Unlocked BB10 Model #: RFH121LW = No 4G newtork on T-Mobile USA

    seems like the 91 version works on wind and tmobile as well, its something i dont understand

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